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Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#161
Very recently, a few bad facts were revealed about Google’s illegal activities against users’ privacy, unfair competition tricks:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28967575

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28976487

Did Google employees anyhow react on it? Did they organise protests, write petitions?

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#162
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I miss the 90's Silicon Valley. Laser focused on innovation and mostly liberatarian. I would kill to go back and rewind time. Currently, this place feels totalitarian on a cultural level. Can't express diverging views. Can't think from the fundamentals and seek truth. Can't criticize the person next to you. The game everyone seems to be playing is who is more woke than the person next to them. This whole thing escala…

Can’t express diverging views about the shape of Earth or how vaccines cause authism. What you call “woke” is just a lowered tolerance to fringe theories in ethics, same way many people don’t tolerate fringe theories about cosmology or medicine.

This is the problem. Not all diverging opinions are insane anti science bs you’re talking about.

I reject both wokeness and trumpism, Qanon, etc. There is a giant turf in the middle that you fail to acknowledge.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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Notice how your defenses of Israel are identical to the colonial regimes of old. We’re progressive and secular and advanced and humane, not like those terrorist savages who attack us for no reason. The rhetoric is indistinguishable from that of the French justifying their hold on Algeria, or the Japanese over Korea, or the white settler regimes of Africa, or China over the Uighers. If you need it spelt out for you, i…

Notice how your comparison of Israel to colonial powers distorts reality: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Israel_a... You propose that a country as small as Israel is colonizing the middle east. I am against the illegal settlements, but the compassion to colonies just doesn't fit at all.

What a bizarre objection. Colonial entities can be as small as a city-state, e.g. Singapore. The point is that a newly imported population is imposing their domination on the people that were previously there.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#164
post #122

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Can’t express diverging views about the shape of Earth or how vaccines cause authism. What you call “woke” is just a lowered tolerance to fringe theories in ethics, same way many people don’t tolerate fringe theories about cosmology or medicine.

This is the problem. Not all diverging opinions are insane anti science bs you’re talking about. I reject both wokeness and trumpism, Qanon, etc. There is a giant turf in the middle that you fail to acknowledge.

Of course not all diverging opinions are fringe. But those that “wokeness” is against are.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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Israel is a wonderful country. Scientifically advanced, progressively minded, a bastion of secularism, LGBT rights, and western ideals. The world is, sadly, obsessed with them. I'd love a real explanation why they get so much undue attention given how they behave towards their enemies. Israel drops leaflets before bombing so civilians can clear out. When Hamas stores weapons in schools and Hospitals, Israel exercises…

Israel dropped a bomb on a blind guy in a wheelchair on purpose and killed bystanders doing so.

Israel doesn’t care about civilian deaths. They care about optics.

That hamas is worse isn’t really relevant for the Palestinian civilians.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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Notice how your defenses of Israel are identical to the colonial regimes of old. We’re progressive and secular and advanced and humane, not like those terrorist savages who attack us for no reason. The rhetoric is indistinguishable from that of the French justifying their hold on Algeria, or the Japanese over Korea, or the white settler regimes of Africa, or China over the Uighers. If you need it spelt out for you, i…

Notice how your comparison of Israel to colonial powers distorts reality: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Israel_a... You propose that a country as small as Israel is colonizing the middle east. I am against the illegal settlements, but the compassion to colonies just doesn't fit at all.

Japan had colonies in China, though they are physically smaller than China.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#168
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The article doesn’t really explain exactly what the project is. Anyone know?

It's just another public cloud project similar to what Big Cloud already have in China, Germany, India etc. Israeli government IT providers will be able to use Google and Amazon cloud services but with the data physically located in Israel.

So just a gov cloud DC?

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#169
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Ah, another tedious, bad faith request for more detailed information, complete with ad hominem "Finkelstein was endorsed by a white supremacist"! How many of these HN accounts are you posting from this evening?

This is not a good-faith argument. If you cannot address disagreement without asserting that your interlocutors are glove-puppet, how are we to progress? If you're going to argue from authority, then you have to be prepared to have the authority questioned. This isn't the USSR. We're allowed to say that your holy texts are nonsense.

It absolutely is good-faith, as I genuinely believe there are puppet accounts used on this page. Another user mentioned it. What is not good-faith are persistent "requests for more information" from apartheid apologists (the number of actual people these users represent is in question) that have no interest in the "specifics" or "elaboration" they are asking for.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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Saying that your country has the best human rights record in the Middle East is like saying your country is the richest in Africa. Just because it is true doesn't mean it is good.

Where do you live? I just wonder real hard how the Danes/Canadians/Americans would have fared if they were in Israel's shoes. Considering history I'd say no that great. It's much easier to virtue signal from your comfy neighborhood in Western country X though, where your biggest enemies are Republicans.

Jamaican in Jamaica - and proud of it.

And I'm sorry - who is threatening Israel again?

- Iran so much as tests a proper implosion-type, they get nuked.

- Syria is a mess, and was never capable of touching Israel (see Bekaa Valley). Same with Iraq.

- Egypt has been Camp Davided

- The Gulf Monarchies are Israel allies and customers, Jordan included.

Yeah. Tough neighbourhood. No wonder they have to be extra sadistic to the Palestinians.

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