That Electric Car’s Not as Green as You Think
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That Electric Car’s Not as Green as You Think
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#2Paywalled, so cannot read the article but as this is an "opinion piece" I suspect it's more gaslighting. The fact remains that while EV's are not 100% perfect in every conceivable way, they do improve upon ICE vehicles in virtually every way. Major issues regarding supply chain of batteries are improving with new battery technology like cobalt-free LFP chemistry. The battery recycling and "second life" battery industry is gradually maturing and technologies like Smart Charging and V2G promise to have a major impact helping to modernize the electrical grid as well as improve the conditions for more renewable energy by matching charging times to variable availability of green energy.
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#3Even if the battery and the car’s components are not environment friendly, it must be better to have the emissions centrally than to have them at each individual car. It’s obviously much harder to control omissions from a single car (not considering blanket ban of cars) than from a factory. It’s also far easier to regulate and control a factory than controlling what people actually does.
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#4Paywalled, so cannot read the article but as this is an "opinion piece" I suspect it's more gaslighting. The fact remains that while EV's are not 100% perfect in every conceivable way, they do improve upon ICE vehicles in virtually every way. Major issues regarding supply chain of batteries are improving with new battery technology like cobalt-free LFP chemistry. The battery recycling and "second life" battery indust…
Reader mode on the article reveals the content. Your answer is on point though. WSJ a few months published a piece saying that electric cars have to run 20k miles before they take over ICE vehicles in emissions(less that is). This piece is just scaremongering though. It keeps on repeating in several ways that making electric vehicles is energy intensive
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#5Re: That Electric Car’s Not as Green as You Think
#6Paywalled, so cannot read the article but as this is an "opinion piece" I suspect it's more gaslighting. The fact remains that while EV's are not 100% perfect in every conceivable way, they do improve upon ICE vehicles in virtually every way. Major issues regarding supply chain of batteries are improving with new battery technology like cobalt-free LFP chemistry. The battery recycling and "second life" battery indust…
>Paywalled, so cannot read the article
It should work in Incognito mode.
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#7What you want to look at is CO2 emitted per km/mile, and electric cars are usually quite a bit better: https://www.carboncounter.com/#!/explore . Obviously there's a lot of challenges: having a grid that can sustain fast charging on peak times for holidays is really non trivial for examples.
And obviously, less cars and less car mileages is better, just like no matter what the insulation it's better that people live in smaller places.
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#8Electric cars are good in another way also:
- they force building nuclear power plants to sustain the grid
* china said will build 150 new nuclear power plants ( west will copy just as they copied the lockdown policy :))
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#9What you want to look at is CO2 emitted per km/mile, and electric cars are usually quite a bit better: https://www.carboncounter.com/#!/explore . Obviously there's a lot of challenges: having a grid that can sustain fast charging on peak times for holidays is really non trivial for examples. And obviously, less cars and less car mileages is better, just like no matter what the insulation it's better that people live…
What you actually want to look at is a full cradle-to-grave life-cycle assessment. In this regard, an electric car is about an order of magnitude better than an ICE car, but it's also much much worse than no car at all.
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#10WSJ has an article a while back comparing emissions from electric vs gas vehicles over the life of the car [0]. It's graphic-heavy so you'll get something out of it even you just scroll.
I don't know what I should be getting out of this article. Cars require energy and materials to make? I think I knew that. I wish this article made bolder claims about EVs not being green instead of implying and hand-waving. Because than maybe I could refute it.
Electric cars are better for the environment, given any reasonable parameters of the average driver, and that's something people should know.
[0] https://www.wsj.com/graphics/are-electric-cars-really-better... https://archive.md/DbtZs