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Political issues divide people, it's unavoidable. And the wokies can't help but look for the next thing after the current one passes. It's all outrage, all the time.
I'm all for political passion on your own time, it's what makes the world change and move forward. But in the workplace it's just toxic.
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> I do not think the wikipedia article will change my mind much. We agree on this point, but perhaps it will encourage good-faith research for someone reading this thread that has not bought into apartheid propaganda.
Thanks for accusing me of that. In what way is at an apartheid? There is no systematic discrimination based on race in Israel. I cannot say the same for other countries, esp when it comes to Jews.
Its known as the covert way to discriminate against arabs..
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Saying that your country has the best human rights record in the Middle East is like saying your country is the richest in Africa. Just because it is true doesn't mean it is good.
Where do you live? I just wonder real hard how the Danes/Canadians/Americans would have fared if they were in Israel's shoes. Considering history I'd say no that great. It's much easier to virtue signal from your comfy neighborhood in Western country X though, where your biggest enemies are Republicans.
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Can’t express diverging views about the shape of Earth or how vaccines cause authism. What you call “woke” is just a lowered tolerance to fringe theories in ethics, same way many people don’t tolerate fringe theories about cosmology or medicine.
Wokeness is a religion. As such that is fine but why pretend otherwise.
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Thanks for accusing me of that. In what way is at an apartheid? There is no systematic discrimination based on race in Israel. I cannot say the same for other countries, esp when it comes to Jews.
Half of the businesses there require "military service" for a job, which is conveniently 99% done by jews only. Its known as the covert way to discriminate against arabs..
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How is it a settler colonial project when even the name 'Jew' is derived from Judea - which is a kingdom that existed where Israel exists today. The US, Canada, Australia, NZ can be considered settler's colonies much more than Israel since the europeans who settled there had anything whatsover with those places.
It's a fucking region with no relation to the modern state of Israel.
The region was named after the tribe, not the other way around
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Half of the businesses there require "military service" for a job, which is conveniently 99% done by jews only. Its known as the covert way to discriminate against arabs..
That’s complete nonsense. It wasn’t true even in the 70s-80s, at the height of the Israeli nationalism.
Edit: for precision they said it was like that for many small business who look for seasonal guys like waiters ..
Israel is a wonderful country. Scientifically advanced, progressively minded, a bastion of secularism, LGBT rights, and western ideals. The world is, sadly, obsessed with them. I'd love a real explanation why they get so much undue attention given how they behave towards their enemies. Israel drops leaflets before bombing so civilians can clear out. When Hamas stores weapons in schools and Hospitals, Israel exercises…
Notice how your defenses of Israel are identical to the colonial regimes of old. We’re progressive and secular and advanced and humane, not like those terrorist savages who attack us for no reason. The rhetoric is indistinguishable from that of the French justifying their hold on Algeria, or the Japanese over Korea, or the white settler regimes of Africa, or China over the Uighers. If you need it spelt out for you, i…
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Israel_a...
You propose that a country as small as Israel is colonizing the middle east. I am against the illegal settlements, but the compassion to colonies just doesn't fit at all.
It’s hard to think of a country in the Middle East with more rights and freedoms or a better human rights record. I know I’ll get a lot of downvotes for saying that, but what I’d like is an objective measure on which another country in the area beats Israel
Then there is criticism against the settlements which in my opinion steals land that doesn't belong to those that want to settle there. The criticism is valid. There is a cultural component here though as many settlers were formerly expelled from Arab lands. That influences in what they see as just.
In reality this criticism gets horribly mixed and objective debate is difficult. Many in Israel are sick of the conflict and wary about criticism because they always have to check the motivation behind it.
Those that propose to defend the side of Palestinians often aren't the best in my opinion, even if they have been fully socialized in western nations they still demand the destruction of Israel. That is stupid beyond measure and certainly not conductive to solve the conflict. Some probably have a worse effect than terrorist groups.
