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From then on, I used sublime and now vscode to do text editing and an IDE like IntelliJ for development. My left little finger has gotten a lot better.
I have stopped using emacs from the last 5 years since I had problems with its key bindings. My left little finger ended up paying the price as that is what I use for control key. I still miss org-mode which I used for more than 10 years. It is one huge reason why I kept coming back to emacs even after all the hurt. From then on, I used sublime and now vscode to do text editing and an IDE like IntelliJ for developmen…
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I was nodding along with the first paragraph. But then, > The greatest threat to Emacs, [..] is a paradigm change in how software gets built or run Is a little to far into scify land. First it requires software to no longer be text based, and then it requires virtually all software to switch to this non-text based solution. In that world a single user can keep Emacs up to date and compatible by asking our AI overlord…
I see where you're going - but I've personally noticed that there are a lot of things coming along with these cloud infrastructure paradigms that have made me feel like my localhost text editing workflows are going to make me look and feel even more like an absolute dinosaur as time goes on. I can't speak eloquently on this as I'm still an amateur to these cloud infra configuration concepts and their real limitations…
I've been using emacs as my primary editor since 1989. It has for that entire time been a PITA to configure. My first customization was to map backspace to ^H and map the insert key to 'nil. I used to dedicate a couple days every January to investigate new emacs tools. Read about the latest features or new modes, often from my org-mode TODO list where I bookmarked them. I have learned to never update emacs mid-projec…
What’s wrong with MELPA?
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> But there's literally nothing I don't have with Emacs that other editors provide. Hmm, refactoring, fixes of Flycheck errors (if the checker/LSP provides them), a Tramp mode that actually works. Oh, and I would like to be able to continue editing my file while Emacs is doing something else ;)
Fix-it and renames work with lsp+clangd. More complex refactoring would be nice, but in the end what is supported depends on the lsp-server capabilities. Emacs hanging at times has unfortunately been the reality for a looong time. There is extensive async support, but it is not always used were needed.
I used (the paid version of) Xrefactory a long time ago with Emacs and C++, that really worked well.
The Clojure-LSp has many code actions too.
> Emacs hanging at times has unfortunately been the reality for a looong time.
Well, at least 25 years :D
Emacs' fundamental problem is that in text editing, there are many equally good ways to do things. It's equally good for Undo to be on control _ as on control z. It's equally good for scrolling to move the cursor as to not move it. It's equally good to have Lisp as a scripting language as JavaScript. No, really, I mean it. It's not a big deal in the big picture. And Emacs choose perfectly good, perfectly sensible def…
People trying to learn very deep kind of software should be ready to swallow a little more info than that IMO.
I've been using emacs as my primary editor since 1989. It has for that entire time been a PITA to configure. My first customization was to map backspace to ^H and map the insert key to 'nil. I used to dedicate a couple days every January to investigate new emacs tools. Read about the latest features or new modes, often from my org-mode TODO list where I bookmarked them. I have learned to never update emacs mid-projec…
I guess I'm a necromancer.
I'm ok with this.
When those people start crossing over onto Emacs mailing lists and going "What Emacs needs is to work exactly like my favorite IDE, else it will die in obscurity" I'm just like, psh. Go away. You've got your own great big ballfield to play in, why do you feel the need to come in and start trying to set rules for our little one?
In fact, this reminds me of a story. Back in the early 2000s there was a clown called Scott McCollum. An ultraconservative, he was fond of writing articles about how Linux and open source were communist cancer. McCollum had an acolyte named Joseph D. Wagner, who once trolled the gcc mailing list with a bug report about a TOTALLY CRITICAL SECURITY VULNERABILITY wherein gcc's optimizer would remove code to scrub sensitive data such as passwords from a buffer before reusing the buffer. When he was told "that's what 'volatile' is for" and to go fuck himself by the gcc maintainers, Wagner had an op-ed published on McCollum's site wherein he went "AHA! The open-source commies maintaining gcc don't care about your security! Use Microsoft Visual C++ if you want your software to be secure!"
Because of people like that, I don't trust entryists from outside a community. I have reason to believe there's a good chance they're not acting in good faith for the benefit of the project.
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VSCode allows you to export settings and keybinds via JSON files. Also, saying EMacs Lisp is more intuitive than JSON is quite absurd. You could give a 15 minute presentation on how to read JSON to someone who knows how to use Word and they’d at least be able to read it. The same wouldn’t be possible with any subset of lisp.
Well, JSON is "just" a serialization format. I'd expect that to be much easier to teach someone than a programming language. That's a rather bizarre comparison. If all you're doing is serializing the configuration, then lisp's s-expressions are just as intuitive as JSON (in the sense that both can be explained in a few minutes).
Also, the argument that lisp's s-expressions are just as intuitive as JSON is verifiably false because you can use a simple natural experiment: what is used more for serialization, JSON or s-expressions?
It's extremely ironic to try and argue these points on a post that's entire theme is how to get more people to use an editor that is quickly losing market share to easier to understand and configure applications.
I've used Emacs for about 5 years now, exclusively in Evil mode. One of my biggest complaints is that my big complex configuration setup seems to break every time I migrate to a new version of Emacs, or a new computer. This last time, I had to install VS code to get my work done quickly because I didn't have time to mess around with my configuration (yet again). It was surprisingly easy to get up and going on vscode.…
Here is one I'm using https://github.com/raxod502/straight.el (it works for me except the overwhelming document).