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Firefox 94 advertises VPN in new private browsing tabs

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Re: Firefox 94 advertises VPN in new private browsing tabs

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Post by zwog »

a5aAqU wrote: post #19

> My new tab window should have no advertisements in it, because you are a nonprofit. "Non-profit" doesn't mean that money magically appears out of nothing. > pushed me ever closer to just giving up and going to Chrome, where at least they exploit me in predictable ways. Chrome is worse, and the ways are much more intrusive. They aren't even predictable. If people keep attacking Firefox like that, there won't be any…

> > pushed me ever closer to just giving up and going to Chrome, where at least they exploit me in predictable ways.

> Chrome is worse, and the ways are much more intrusive. They aren't even predictable. If people keep attacking Firefox like that, there won't be any choice but Chromium/Google, and then it will get even worse.

I understand where they're coming from: With Chrome I don't see those ads. They are probably exploiting my data, but I don't see ads that come from the browser. Firefox on the other hand shoves the ads right under my nose.

Re: Firefox 94 advertises VPN in new private browsing tabs

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Post by underatree »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #48
underatree wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cost-benefit isn't there for me. Benefit: Removing ads isn't much of a benefit for me, since having tracking protection and first party isolation. Cost: Ads blocker require high privilege permissions that I choose not to grant.

> Removing ads isn't much of a benefit for me Why not? I'm genuinely curious... The web feels completely different without ad blockers, at least to me. > Ads blocker require high privilege permissions that I choose not to grant. That is perfectly understandable. I agree with you. I think these blockers should be built into the browser themselves in order to eliminate this problem. Sadly, conflicts of interest prevent…

> Why not? I'm genuinely curious... The web feels completely different without ad blockers, at least to me.

To clarify, I prefer an ad-free browsing experience.

However, I haven't seen an alternative to ads that works for adequately funding content on the /open/ web.

I like that most journalism, YouTube, and social media are free for all.

Re: Firefox 94 advertises VPN in new private browsing tabs

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Post by a5aAqU »

zwog wrote: post #51
a5aAqU wrote: post #19

> My new tab window should have no advertisements in it, because you are a nonprofit. "Non-profit" doesn't mean that money magically appears out of nothing. > pushed me ever closer to just giving up and going to Chrome, where at least they exploit me in predictable ways. Chrome is worse, and the ways are much more intrusive. They aren't even predictable. If people keep attacking Firefox like that, there won't be any…

> > pushed me ever closer to just giving up and going to Chrome, where at least they exploit me in predictable ways. > Chrome is worse, and the ways are much more intrusive. They aren't even predictable. If people keep attacking Firefox like that, there won't be any choice but Chromium/Google, and then it will get even worse. I understand where they're coming from: With Chrome I don't see those ads. They are probably…

> shoves the ads right under my nose

You can turn them off.

You can't really turn off the ads with Google. Chrome is designed to send you to Google Search where you are encouraged to click on ads and visit other Google sites instead of the URL you intended to visit. That's why they turned the URL bar into a search bar. At least in Firefox you can split search into a separate box.

Re: Firefox 94 advertises VPN in new private browsing tabs

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Post by a5aAqU »

pvinis wrote: post #50
a5aAqU wrote: post #49

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Here's one way to support them. https://fpn.firefox.com/

Nope. This is not supporting the browser, it's supporting their VPN that they develop, that takes time and effort from the browser work.

I thought FPN and the VPN are white-labeled 3rd party services (Cloudflare for FPN and Mullvad for VPN). Are you sure that every attempt Mozilla makes to become less dependent on Google negatively impacts Firefox development? I find that doubtful.

Re: Firefox 94 advertises VPN in new private browsing tabs

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Post by mavhc »

pvinis wrote: post #40
mavhc wrote: post #33

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Should be an option. 3 download buttons: Firefox (funded by Google), Firefox (funded by Ads), Firefox ($20/year) But 99% of people will pick the first I'd bet

YES! Let me pay for the browser directly!

That was Mozilla's original plan, until IE shipped for free
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