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Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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Many of your integrations talk about “syncing” rather than event collection, which to me sounds like what Fivetran is doing. Does that distinction make sense and how are you thinking about that?

We call it "push" (you send event to Jitsu) and "pull" (Jitsu pulls data) integrations. Technically speaking, push integrations are outnumbered. But that's because we took advantage of other open-source projects (Airbyte and Singer) to implement them.

Our core is push integrations, that's the most complex part of the system. We see "pull" integrations as an additional feature that helps to enrich the data after events made it to DHW

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

#44
Kudos on the work done and I hope you the best of luck.

A little note of advise: I wouldn’t start my company description as “the Y of X” or “the Y alternative to X”.

It’s okay to mention if you are similar to another well known company, but don’t use it to describe your company, specially not in the first line.

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the difference with Jitsu and Rudderstack. Aware of both projects but keen to get your take.

Disclaimer: Haven't looked at Jitsu in depth so my understanding below may be limited. Reading through their comment below - "Jitsu can be used for any kind of data while Segment compatibility is just a thin layer on top". I am guessing they have built a generic event API that can be used to send any JSON payload while RudderStack (like Segment) has a opinionated view of events - e.g. there has to be a userID (or ano…

We have suggested event structure (https://github.com/jitsucom/jitsu/blob/master/javascript-sdk...). If you want to send data to destination, you should either follow suggested structure or write your own JavaScript mapping (https://jitsu.com/blog/javascript-transform).

And we have DBT models too https://hub.getdbt.com/jitsucom/jitsu/latest/ !

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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post #44

Kudos on the work done and I hope you the best of luck. A little note of advise: I wouldn’t start my company description as “the Y of X” or “the Y alternative to X”. It’s okay to mention if you are similar to another well known company, but don’t use it to describe your company, specially not in the first line.

I disagree, much easier to understand when it's described like this

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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post #44

Kudos on the work done and I hope you the best of luck. A little note of advise: I wouldn’t start my company description as “the Y of X” or “the Y alternative to X”. It’s okay to mention if you are similar to another well known company, but don’t use it to describe your company, specially not in the first line.

There's always a tradeoff. By describing our company as "alternative to X" you saving tons of time by explaining what you company does. People are overloaded with information, and average attention span very short. But I see the disadvantages too! We have an internal debate about tagline a few months ago, and essentially decided to go with "Open-source alternative to Segment". But it wasn't an easy decision!

However, I think that the product matters the most. You can change the tagline in a few clicks. Can't say the same about the product

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

#48

> Jitsu solves the AdBlocker problem... This line alone is enough to infuriate me. So I am unable to block spying and data collection now? I don't understand why we are still praising spyware tools?

I mean, that's a common difference between a SaaS and a self-hosted solution. For a SaaS service a block list can include *.somesaas.com vs a self-hosted service that has it's own domain per owner, meaning you'd have to add every single one to the list. You can always find a common pattern in the URL (e.g. the API), and block based on something else. There's also an issue[0] to block based on POST body.

[0] https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/1357

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

#49

Is https://meltano.com/ a more general version of this ? i am wondering how this compares to it?

We have some overlap. In simple words: a Singer + DBT, Jitsu is Event Collector + Singer + Airbyte.

Meltano will pull data from Singer connectors and do transformations, but they won't run Airbyte connectors, and you can't push data to Meltano

Jitsu will use Airbyte or Singer to pull data, and you can push the data to Jitsu. But Jitsu won't run DBT transformation. Although we can trigger DBT cloud jobs: https://jitsu.com/blog/dbt-integration

P.S. Meltano has a CLI, and we don't (yet)

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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post #44

Kudos on the work done and I hope you the best of luck. A little note of advise: I wouldn’t start my company description as “the Y of X” or “the Y alternative to X”. It’s okay to mention if you are similar to another well known company, but don’t use it to describe your company, specially not in the first line.

I agree.

I hadn't heard of Segment and now I'm reading your competitors website.

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