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Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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Post by vklmn » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:08 PM UTC

tarun_anand wrote: post #7

Adding on to the previous comment, how does this compare to rudderstack?

We're very similar indeed. But we attack the same problem from different angles:

- We truly believe that our product should be accessible for small teams too. That's why se made Jitsu very easy to deploy. I'm not sure you can deploy Rudder on Heroku, or on any service with a single Docker file.

- Our ETL component is open-source (and based on other great OSS projects - Airbyte & Singer). RudderStack haven't published the Cloud Extract (their ETL) to my knowledge.

- RudderStack aims to replace Segment, we go beyond that. We didn't copy Segment API one-to-one, we just added a Segment compatibility layer. Jitsu can be used for any kind of data. An example: a few companies (including our-selves) using Jitsu to collect open-source telemetry (anonymous usage). I'm not sure Rudder can be used for that use-case

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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Post by soumyadeb » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:24 PM UTC

Congrats on your launch. Great to see more innovation in this space. Segment deserves some serious competition.

-RudderStack team.

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:25 PM UTC

tarun_anand wrote: post #9

ThePhysicist wrote: post #4

Great work! It's funny that YC funded Segment as well as two direct Segment competitors (RudderStack is the other one, though I think they initially started with a different idea an pivoted to that afterwards), though given the size of YC this is probably expected and Segment is probably large enough to "deserve" some good smaller competition. As someone who also builds an open-core product (though not directly model…

They have been doing that in many areas now... Look at the alternatives to closed source analytics that they have funded

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Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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Post by soumyadeb » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:26 PM UTC

vklmn wrote: post #10

ThePhysicist wrote: post #4

Great work! It's funny that YC funded Segment as well as two direct Segment competitors (RudderStack is the other one, though I think they initially started with a different idea an pivoted to that afterwards), though given the size of YC this is probably expected and Segment is probably large enough to "deserve" some good smaller competition. As someone who also builds an open-core product (though not directly model…

I don't believe that YC funded RudderStack, but they funded Segment indeed! It's not uncommon. If I have to guess, every batch or so have at least 2 companies directly competing with each over

Yes, RudderStack is not YC funded. Though I have learnt a lot from YC (and PG) through the years and attribute our entrepreneurship to them.

Founder of RudderStack here.

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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Post by tomislavpet » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:28 PM UTC

Congrats on the launch!

Noticed a typo on jitsu.com - DHW should probably be DWH.

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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Post by vklmn » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:31 PM UTC

tomislavpet wrote: post #15

Congrats on the launch! Noticed a typo on jitsu.com - DHW should probably be DWH.

Ops... Thank you very much! Vercel is deploying the fix already

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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Post by browsec » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:37 PM UTC

Great job!

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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Post by einpoklum » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:39 PM UTC

> We help companies collect events from their apps, websites, and APIs and send them to databases.

For those who don't know what "Segment" is (like me) - this Jitsu thing seems to only be relevant to web-based/web-oriented apps.

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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Post by dmolot » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:41 PM UTC

vklmn wrote: post #11

tarun_anand wrote: post #7

Adding on to the previous comment, how does this compare to rudderstack?

We're very similar indeed. But we attack the same problem from different angles: - We truly believe that our product should be accessible for small teams too. That's why se made Jitsu very easy to deploy. I'm not sure you can deploy Rudder on Heroku, or on any service with a single Docker file. - Our ETL component is open-source (and based on other great OSS projects - Airbyte & Singer). RudderStack haven't published…

Fellow YC company (hotglue) here - we love the Singer spec so it is cool to see your modeling after that. It is worth giving a shout out to Meltano who is helping grow it (an Airbyte competitor). Love what you all are doing Vladimir! Congrats on the launch :D

Re: Launch HN: Jitsu (YC S20) – Open-Source Segment Alternative

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Post by leetrout » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:41 PM UTC

einpoklum wrote: post #18

> We help companies collect events from their apps, websites, and APIs and send them to databases. For those who don't know what "Segment" is (like me) - this Jitsu thing seems to only be relevant to web-based/web-oriented apps.

Not affiliated but that is not accurate.

Segment is a fancy event router / multiplexer. You emit events to it and it sends them to reporting and storage destinations.

It does have more features for web apps but that is not the only use case.