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Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by toyg »

908B64B197 wrote: post #410
toyg wrote: post #371

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The Iranian system also has some democratic legitimacy. Yes, the religious authority is supreme, but it's not as overtly tyrannical as the average dictatorial regimes: the religious ruler is himself elected by an assembly (similarly to what happens with the Catholic Pope), and the secular executive branch is elected (although the religious element can pre-emptively stop pesky candidates from running altogether). Ther…

> There is a good chunk of Iranian society that genuinely thinks their system is good, and it keeps the country somewhat stable in a region where such condition is not particularly common. That explains the massive exodus of talent, minds and people straight out of the country minutes after the revolution.

... which was 40 years ago. Quite a few people were born since then, and still live there. Obviously it's not a paradise, but it's not comparable with the likes of North Korea, and these days it's not that incredibly different from other supposedly-good countries in the region.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by toyg »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #384
toyg wrote: post #373

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> Similarly, writing an entire program in dotnet used to be a death sentence until Mono This is somewhat ironic, considering .NET is effectively "Java as rebuilt by Microsoft", and one of the original selling point of Java was... cross-platform support, "write once - run anywhere". BillG clearly made sure that particular aspect would not carry over to the MS version.

> BillG clearly made sure that particular aspect would not carry over to the MS version. Heh, well .NET's cross- architecture support was/is still useful for allowing .NET to target Windows CE on SH-3, MIPS, ARM and more - also consider that at-the-time (1999-2001) even though Windows NT no-longer supported MIPS and Alpha, there was IA-64 (Itanium) looming on the horizon which was widely anticipated to replace x86 (h…

Oh yeah, compared to what it was meant to replace (COM/DCOM, C++, VB6, ASP/vbscript), .NET was undoubtedly a massive step forward and a no-brainer to adopt, for anyone invested in the MS ecosystem.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by yepthatsreality »

arp242 wrote: post #408
yepthatsreality wrote: post #396

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EEE doesn't have to involve "open" anything. You're moving the goal post.

"[Strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences in order to strongly disadvantage its competitors. " So pray tell me, how does one either "embrace" or "extend" a product that has always been proprietary, has never used open protocols or standards, and never had any interoperability with anything else?

You purchase the rights.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by [deleted] »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #339
geofft wrote: post #319

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Right, I have to admit I don't entirely understand the .NET kerfuffle. .NET is clearly Microsoft's language ecosystem, just as much as Swift is Apple's, and much more so than, say, Go is Google's. A lot of the value in .NET is how it works with the Microsoft ecosystem - or put another way, as someone who mostly doesn't develop on Windows (but uses Windows a lot as a desktop OS), I have never once felt that .NET was t…

> It is pretty cool that this isn't true. But the idea that Microsoft organizationally having control over the .NET open source project is somehow bad for open source is just incomprehensible to me, who grew up on .NET not being open source at all. It's not about open-source: it's more that major organizations and industries won't use a programming platform that is entirely at the whims of a company they have no real…

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Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by SuoDuanDao »

mehrdada wrote: post #402
toyg wrote: post #371

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The Iranian system also has some democratic legitimacy. Yes, the religious authority is supreme, but it's not as overtly tyrannical as the average dictatorial regimes: the religious ruler is himself elected by an assembly (similarly to what happens with the Catholic Pope), and the secular executive branch is elected (although the religious element can pre-emptively stop pesky candidates from running altogether). Ther…

This characterization is ridiculous. Following the form does not make you “somewhat democratic,” nor does calling oneself Democratic People’s Republic. In addition, “the secular executive branch” comment is flat out wrong. The executive branch and candidates for presidency are explicitly obligated to believe and follow Islamic and Sharia laws.

>The executive branch and candidates for presidency are explicitly obligated to believe and follow Islamic and Sharia laws.

Oh come one. Is the US not a democracy because the executive branch and candidates for presidency are explicity obligated to believe and follow the constitution?

As a Canadian I've personally benefited from the US hegemony and if I had to pick a least-rapacious global hegemon historically you'd be in the running. But I see comments like this and I can't help but feel like the US might have 'Earned' the same kind of 'Democracy' its three-letter boys brought Libya.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by alvarlagerlof »

FpUser wrote: post #351
judge2020 wrote: post #307

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Despite Visual Studio being a paid product it's always slow and a pain to use. Maybe they should fix that instead of trying to gatekeep features. Don't forget https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/pull/22262

I use Visual Studio to develop software ( C++ ) for Windows and Linux targets. I do not find it slow and rather than being "pain" it is actually way above other development IDEs in my opinion.

What's your cold boot time?

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by _pmf_ »

908B64B197 wrote: post #337
type_enthusiast wrote: post #333

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> the people of Iran can end these sanctions at any time Sorry to bite on this off-topic thing... but, _how_? Overthrowing their government? I guess that would be technically true, but "at any time" seems like a weird phrase to use for that.

Yes. Just look at Libya during the Arab Spring. Democracy is never given, it is earned.

Is this satire?

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by arp242 »

yepthatsreality wrote: post #424
arp242 wrote: post #408

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"[Strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences in order to strongly disadvantage its competitors. " So pray tell me, how does one either "embrace" or "extend" a product that has always been proprietary, has never used open protocols or standards, and never had any interoperability with anything else?

You purchase the rights.

EEE is about making standards and protocols incompatible with competitors. This literally cannot apply to Skype as it was never compatible with anything. I don't know what part of that is so hard to grasp. You seem intent on using your own definition of "every bad decision Microsoft ever made" or some such.
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