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Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by ludicast » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 5:41 AM UTC

davidw wrote: post #27

PKop wrote: post #14

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Quoting Durr in Politico: [0] Durr said Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy’s coronavirus executive orders, vaccine and school mask, unemployment benefits snafus and a general distrust of the South Jersey Democratic machine that has dominated the region for years all contributed to his strong performance. Sweeney, Durr said, “never challenged” Murphy during the pandemic. “You have the debacle of unemployment. The masking of…

I'm beginning to come around to this point of view: https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/peacefield/617c7b245793d... - we are not a serious nation. There's a global pandemic caused by an airborne pathogen, and people throw an absolute hissy fit over a minor inconvenience like masks. My kids wear them all day long in school, and while they don't love them, they are not constantly whining about them like some adults. My…

My masked son had a low pulse ox in his checkup. About 80, the same number that with covid should necessitate a hospital visit.

Supposedly a lot of kids have needed to demask to get a good pulse ox. As a parent this terrifies me.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by voz_ » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 8:08 AM UTC

psadauskas wrote: post #385

voz_ wrote: post #272

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No thank you. He is the tucker carlson of the left. I try to stay away from talking heads that remove all nuance from the debate.

I mean, alright, you do you, but the common misconception you're echoing here he very specifically refuted with data and cited sources. One point in particular, it costs a city around $30k/yr per homeless person in emergency medical care and jail facilities, but only ~$10k/yr to give them the proper support and a place to live.

And what happens when they refuse that support? Or turn it into a drug den? I've lived in SF, and in Seattle for a combined 22 years. I've seen what the ravaging horde of homeless due to the cities there. They turn away housing, and they won't go to shelters. Not because the shelters are degrading, but because they won't let them do drugs there.

These people are mentally insane, and unfit for society.

Would giving them housing stop them from raping? or defecating inside cars they broke into?

It's time to stop pandering to the 0.1% and focus on the 99.9% of us that do participate in society.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by native_samples » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 10:41 AM UTC

davidw wrote: post #27

PKop wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoting Durr in Politico: [0] Durr said Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy’s coronavirus executive orders, vaccine and school mask, unemployment benefits snafus and a general distrust of the South Jersey Democratic machine that has dominated the region for years all contributed to his strong performance. Sweeney, Durr said, “never challenged” Murphy during the pandemic. “You have the debacle of unemployment. The masking of…

I'm beginning to come around to this point of view: https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/peacefield/617c7b245793d... - we are not a serious nation. There's a global pandemic caused by an airborne pathogen, and people throw an absolute hissy fit over a minor inconvenience like masks. My kids wear them all day long in school, and while they don't love them, they are not constantly whining about them like some adults. My…

Masks don't work at all and never have, so your school is just making your kids unhappy for no reason.

https://ianmsc.substack.com/p/every-comparison-shows-masks-a...

They don't "whine" because they know it's pointless and the school/you will punish them if they do. Adults have more options.

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Post by throwaway0a5e » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 10:45 AM UTC

ruined wrote: post #156

nostromo wrote: post #48

A Republican just won an election in Seattle City Government for the first time in three decades. This election has seen some big shifts in the electorate, even in some deeply-Democratic areas. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/republica...

my glass-almost-half-full take on this is that a significant chunk of the electorate was willing to vote for the candidate that literally supports burning down jails, which is astonishing no matter how you look at it

That kinds of begs the question what the glass is half full of.

I agree it's astonishing no matter what side of the isle you come at it from.

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Post by vkou » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 11:33 AM UTC

animal_spirits wrote: post #228

SirSourdough wrote: post #149

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And I want people who lack compassion and consideration housed at the bottom of the ocean, but we can't all win.

Compassion would mean to have love and hope for those who you disagree with, not the desire to throw them in the bottom of the ocean.

Perhaps he is compassionate for people who are not bereft of compassion. His point is about as valid as the parent post's.

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Post by DanBC » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 12:11 PM UTC

rsj_hn wrote: post #219

colinmhayes wrote: post #208

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2/3 of murders were with guns. Would people still kill each if they didn't have guns? obviously. Would they do it less? Hard to say since research into gun violence is banned by the government.

> Hard to say since research into gun violence is banned by the government. It's not banned. The government isn't going to fund it, but you've jumped the shark if you think that means it is banned. And part of the reason it's not being funded is that this is political in nature. How do you look at the hundreds of thousands of assaults that were thwarted with guns used in self-defense? Guns are primarily used for self…

> It's also far outside the purview of the CDC

What? no it isn't. CDC report on a wide range of harm. It's baffling to think the CDC can be funded to research on road traffic deaths but not gun deaths. Or, to use your examples, that they could be funded to research knife deaths but not gun deaths.

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Post by tootie » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 12:45 PM UTC

post_break wrote: post #166

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It's so bonkers. America has the most unfettered gun ownership laws in the developed world by a mile and somehow it's still a political wedge that can outweigh healthcare, fair taxation, education.

Show me someone who is for healthcare, unions, college, but also doesn't want to take a black marker to the second amendment, I'll wait. Until the left stops going after guns, single issue voters will keep voting the way they do.

Well that's exactly my point. People like you who think gun rights supercede everything else. It's ludicrous. Almost nobody needs a gun. Most other wealthy democracies have universal healthcare and near total bans on private gun ownership and they're doing way better than America. Proof is in the pudding.

But even so, your opinion is clearly colored by propaganda. Gun control isn't a popular topic on the left. The second amendment remains inviolable and has greatly expanded in the last twenty years. "They're coming to take our guns" is a cry of right wing media because they know it will scare people into voting irrationally.

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Post by Steltek » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:25 PM UTC

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #93

umvi wrote: post #2

Any (relatively) unbiased sources that explain how NJ got into this predicament? Just current leadership being out of touch with the wants/needs of NJ citizens?

Many NJ residents work(ed) in NY. Of which, many are high earners who could be contributing significant amounts to the state tax rolls but NY claims income tax from anyone who commutes there. To make up the difference towns have to jack up property taxes. Things should hopefully change with remote work not happening in NY anymore.

NH and MA have a similar dichotomy. NH residents commute into MA for work, where they pay MA income tax, and so the NH property taxes are usually higher than a comparable home in MA.

However, and no offense to NJ, I think living in NH has a ton of appeal. You're so close to amazing backpacking, skiing, lakes, etc. It's a really beautiful state. People staying in full time WFH are going to have an amazing balance of occasional office trips in MA and access to adventure.

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Post by wrycoder » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

busymom0 wrote: post #220

wrycoder wrote: post #145

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I see maskless parents shepherding their masked small children around. The kids are obviously self conscious about the masks, and at the same time, they appear to be proud to wear them.

> they appear to be proud to wear them Being proud to be "obedient" is not always a good thing. Also this cannot be generalized. Plus it doesn't make something being mandatory right, especially when looking at people's smiles is crucial for kids development.

I don't mean to suggest that it's right, or even mandatory.

What I'm observing is that peculiar mix of self consciousness, smugness, and pride you sometimes see in young children, when they believe they are acting morally.

I'm not using quite the right words here - the emotions I'm listing are more mature. But the same emotions exist in children, just not fully matured.

Since the parents were maskless, I think the kids wanted to wear theirs because they've been taught at school that it's the right thing to do. The ones I observed appeared to be around eight years old.

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Post by adolph » Thu, Nov 04, 2021, 1:55 PM UTC

adolph wrote: post #348

BuyMyBitcoins wrote: post #251

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Yes, for the most part. I do not think the doubts and suspicious anomalies are new or unique to the 2020 election, though. As for the mob-like coercion, I don’t think there was this same kind of intimidation going on in 2020. I was using this concrete example of election fraud to refute the oft-touted assertion that voter fraud is vanishingly rare in the United States, and, it is never serious enough to affect an ele…

Election irregularities are regular enough that fraud should be a plausible conjecture. Maybe the implicit goal is to limit obvious fraud enough to only make a difference in very close elections when the elect do not receive a big mandate one way or another and to maintain the fiction of votes making a difference.

Followup to "Election irregularities are regular enough that fraud should be a plausible conjecture."

I think increased interest in election integrity after a contested election are great to the extent that high integrity processes are the truth to which society should work towards. Disputes about specific irregularities post-election are less valuable and a generic response could be "well, you should have cheated better."