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Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by jen20 »

toyg wrote: post #373
smoldesu wrote: post #342

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> major organizations and industries won't use a programming platform that is entirely at the whims of a company they have no real control over 100% this, the biggest issue I see with dotnet and Swift is that they're spending too much time trying to be appealing to people who don't want to use them. Swift, as a language, really only makes sense to use if you're extensively targeting Apple systems and planning to skip…

> Similarly, writing an entire program in dotnet used to be a death sentence until Mono This is somewhat ironic, considering .NET is effectively "Java as rebuilt by Microsoft", and one of the original selling point of Java was... cross-platform support, "write once - run anywhere". BillG clearly made sure that particular aspect would not carry over to the MS version.

The design and support for cross-platform use was there from the start, and most obviously manifested itself via Rotor. If I recall correctly it targeted FreeBSD rather than Linux though.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by mehrdada »

toyg wrote: post #371
mschuster91 wrote: post #354

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> Just look at Libya during the Arab Spring. Iran at least has some sort of functioning government entity (which I, to be clear, absolutely despise), Libya collapsed completely as a result of Ghaddafi's (well deserved) downfall and it will likely be a hotbed of Islamist terrorism and instability for decades to come. I don't see any nation or block of nations willing to step up and do nation rebuilding in once-beautif…

The Iranian system also has some democratic legitimacy. Yes, the religious authority is supreme, but it's not as overtly tyrannical as the average dictatorial regimes: the religious ruler is himself elected by an assembly (similarly to what happens with the Catholic Pope), and the secular executive branch is elected (although the religious element can pre-emptively stop pesky candidates from running altogether). Ther…

This characterization is ridiculous. Following the form does not make you “somewhat democratic,” nor does calling oneself Democratic People’s Republic.

In addition, “the secular executive branch” comment is flat out wrong. The executive branch and candidates for presidency are explicitly obligated to believe and follow Islamic and Sharia laws.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

jen20 wrote: post #401
toyg wrote: post #373

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Similarly, writing an entire program in dotnet used to be a death sentence until Mono This is somewhat ironic, considering .NET is effectively "Java as rebuilt by Microsoft", and one of the original selling point of Java was... cross-platform support, "write once - run anywhere". BillG clearly made sure that particular aspect would not carry over to the MS version.

The design and support for cross-platform use was there from the start, and most obviously manifested itself via Rotor. If I recall correctly it targeted FreeBSD rather than Linux though.

ROTOR was never production-quality though - I think it was there as a proof-of-concept and to try to convince some university professors to consider it as an alternative to JVM.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by reasonabl_human »

ghuntley wrote: post #282

In case people missed it. There was two promotions today. A new CEO at GitHub and the person GitHub reports to a MSFT also got promoted. Here’s the internal msft email https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29098640 This person at MSFT who got promoted is the one that caused the problems in the dotnet community where features that had a go-live RTM license (as in merged and ready for long term support) were removed fro…

Implying GitHub in its current form will die and functionality will gradually switch over to Az DevOps?

Or what am I missing here..

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by fomine3 »

oaiey wrote: post #254
outside1234 wrote: post #58

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He integrated Github with Microsoft and didn't screw it up. That is quite an accomplishment honestly.

I think Microsoft was well aware that they had to run GitHub differently. And then they found the right manager idling around.

Maybe. Another case is LinkedIn.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by dang »

throwaway984393 wrote: post #383
dang wrote: post #229

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Could you please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum.…

I don't see the reply I made here with that throwaway (shadowban?), so I'm doing it with my other one. > for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to Apparently not! Using throwaways, people have upvoted me like crazy . Hundreds of points per month, for a person with no identity. If it kept going at the same pace, I would outrank some of the highest-point users within a year or two,…

You can't judge these things by upvotes alone. Indignation and flamebait routinely get upvoted, for example, and are obviously not what this site is for. The system is complex and upvotes are just one factor.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

As for 'the community not disappearing' - this is a freerider argument. You're benefitting from the contributions of all the people who aren't behaving this way.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by sngz »

safaci2000 wrote: post #139

"GitHub Actions has become the #1 CI service, used by popular open source projects and enterprises alike." I must be missing something. For whatever reason GH Actions just never appealed to me. Am I missing something? I've used Drone IO more, granted it's better than travis but the #1 CI services seems like a stretch.

I use it at work, I hate it. There's a senior level guy that keeps pushing for it, gets it barely working then leaves our CI/CD pipeline broken and I have to go and clean it up. I'm working on moving our team away from Github Actions now.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by arp242 »

yepthatsreality wrote: post #396
arp242 wrote: post #392

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Skype was never anywhere near "open" and always fully proprietary. It was just a change of management, and nowhere near "EEE". Teams is just a run-of-the-mill chat thingy, no? Was is ever open in any way or built on standards? What did they "embrace" or "extend"?

EEE doesn't have to involve "open" anything. You're moving the goal post.

"[Strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences in order to strongly disadvantage its competitors. "

So pray tell me, how does one either "embrace" or "extend" a product that has always been proprietary, has never used open protocols or standards, and never had any interoperability with anything else?

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by pabs3 »

orliesaurus wrote: post #30

If person's legacy is a list of all the good things (or bad things) they've done during their time, Nat's legacy as the CEO of GitHub can also be summed into a list. Let me get started...I only remember this one thing but other users of HN can help add more I supposed: - That one time when Nat spoke against DMCA law and said taking down youtube-dl was wrong and he actively pushed for their reinstatement. [1] [1] http…

Unfortunately youtube-dl seems to have stopped being worked on since then. Luckily there is a fork though.

https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by 908B64B197 »

toyg wrote: post #371
mschuster91 wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just look at Libya during the Arab Spring. Iran at least has some sort of functioning government entity (which I, to be clear, absolutely despise), Libya collapsed completely as a result of Ghaddafi's (well deserved) downfall and it will likely be a hotbed of Islamist terrorism and instability for decades to come. I don't see any nation or block of nations willing to step up and do nation rebuilding in once-beautif…

The Iranian system also has some democratic legitimacy. Yes, the religious authority is supreme, but it's not as overtly tyrannical as the average dictatorial regimes: the religious ruler is himself elected by an assembly (similarly to what happens with the Catholic Pope), and the secular executive branch is elected (although the religious element can pre-emptively stop pesky candidates from running altogether). Ther…

> There is a good chunk of Iranian society that genuinely thinks their system is good, and it keeps the country somewhat stable in a region where such condition is not particularly common.

That explains the massive exodus of talent, minds and people straight out of the country minutes after the revolution.

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