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Some Whales Can Eat Upwards of 16 Tons of Tiny Shrimp a Day

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Re: Some Whales Can Eat Upwards of 16 Tons of Tiny Shrimp a Day

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"That’s because the more whales eat, the more they poop, releasing nutrients like iron into the ocean water to fertilize the growth of phytoplankton, which in turn serve as a primary food source in the marine food web." Um, the whales are not creating iron. They are eating it and putting (some of) it back where it came from. This articles makes it seem like the more they eat the more iron is there. A dead krill will…

I have seen the argument (in Derrick Jensen) that whales migrate vertically, so the iron they distribute is somewhere else than originally, placing whales (if so) as a key factor in an iron circulation system.

Re: Some Whales Can Eat Upwards of 16 Tons of Tiny Shrimp a Day

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I am not only awed by the size and bulk of whales, but also the sheer meatiness of shrimp. It seems like these organisms are > 90% meat. Why do they have so much meat? What do they need all that meat for?

Their locomotion requires an enormous amount of power. This is not uncommon in arthropods; cockroaches and crickets do too.

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A related article has an amazing fact: in the 1800s, humans killed as much whale biomass as all mammalian biomass alive today. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/11/whaling-...

All wild mammal biomass. Domesticated mammal biomass is massive. In fact, humans + our livestock comprise 96% of mammal biomass: https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/17788/how-muc...

if you are thinking of animals, JBS Haldane had it right: god has an inordinate fondness for beetles.

But in the scheme of things, animals aren’t really that big a deal:

> Of the 550 gigatons of biomass carbon on Earth, animals make up about 2 gigatons, with insects comprising half of that and fish taking up another 0.7 gigatons. Everything else, including mammals, birds, nematodes and mollusks are roughly 0.3 gigatons, with humans weighing in at 0.06 gigatons.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/humans-make-110000...

Re: Some Whales Can Eat Upwards of 16 Tons of Tiny Shrimp a Day

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post #11
post #8

"That’s because the more whales eat, the more they poop, releasing nutrients like iron into the ocean water to fertilize the growth of phytoplankton, which in turn serve as a primary food source in the marine food web." Um, the whales are not creating iron. They are eating it and putting (some of) it back where it came from. This articles makes it seem like the more they eat the more iron is there. A dead krill will…

I have seen the argument (in Derrick Jensen) that whales migrate vertically, so the iron they distribute is somewhere else than originally, placing whales (if so) as a key factor in an iron circulation system.

But the iron is consumed on the surface, and the phytoplankton need it on the surface - if anything sending it to the depths of the sea seems counter productive.

Re: Some Whales Can Eat Upwards of 16 Tons of Tiny Shrimp a Day

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post #8

"That’s because the more whales eat, the more they poop, releasing nutrients like iron into the ocean water to fertilize the growth of phytoplankton, which in turn serve as a primary food source in the marine food web." Um, the whales are not creating iron. They are eating it and putting (some of) it back where it came from. This articles makes it seem like the more they eat the more iron is there. A dead krill will…

Well, digestive processes in the whale could speed the cycle, yes?

But I take your point.

Re: Some Whales Can Eat Upwards of 16 Tons of Tiny Shrimp a Day

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All wild mammal biomass. Domesticated mammal biomass is massive. In fact, humans + our livestock comprise 96% of mammal biomass: https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/17788/how-muc...

if you are thinking of animals, JBS Haldane had it right: god has an inordinate fondness for beetles. But in the scheme of things, animals aren’t really that big a deal: > Of the 550 gigatons of biomass carbon on Earth, animals make up about 2 gigatons, with insects comprising half of that and fish taking up another 0.7 gigatons. Everything else, including mammals, birds, nematodes and mollusks are roughly 0.3 gigato…

Here's another cool visualization - with different figures however.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-the-biomass-of-earth-in...

Re: Some Whales Can Eat Upwards of 16 Tons of Tiny Shrimp a Day

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I have a population of shrimp that have been breeding in my aquarium for quite some time now. They spend most of their time picking through detritus and otherwise managing the cleanliness of the rocks and sandbed. I'm curious if their 'meatiness' has something to do with how rapidly they grow and reproduce and the size of the clutches involved. A single female can have around 100 eggs or more attached to the undersid…

Caton in Overshoot called humans a detritus species. Your very descriptive paragraph might be mined for metaphors. For example, in place of a brain, does humanity have going a peristaltic action connecting mines to landfills?

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Re: Some Whales Can Eat Upwards of 16 Tons of Tiny Shrimp a Day

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you are thinking of animals, JBS Haldane had it right: god has an inordinate fondness for beetles. But in the scheme of things, animals aren’t really that big a deal: > Of the 550 gigatons of biomass carbon on Earth, animals make up about 2 gigatons, with insects comprising half of that and fish taking up another 0.7 gigatons. Everything else, including mammals, birds, nematodes and mollusks are roughly 0.3 gigato…

Here's another cool visualization - with different figures however. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-the-biomass-of-earth-in...

Though very neat diagram (and the figures are correct), it is confusing - the title says 'Biomass of Life' but it highlights the animal biomass at the top, which is a tiny fraction of overall.

One has to see the bottom portion to realize the bigger contributing components of 'Biomass of Life'.. Plants, Bacterias etc.

The original research paper:

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/115/25/6506.full.pdf

Re: Some Whales Can Eat Upwards of 16 Tons of Tiny Shrimp a Day

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you are thinking of animals, JBS Haldane had it right: god has an inordinate fondness for beetles. But in the scheme of things, animals aren’t really that big a deal: > Of the 550 gigatons of biomass carbon on Earth, animals make up about 2 gigatons, with insects comprising half of that and fish taking up another 0.7 gigatons. Everything else, including mammals, birds, nematodes and mollusks are roughly 0.3 gigato…

Here's another cool visualization - with different figures however. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-the-biomass-of-earth-in...

I always say to my wife - bugs rule the earth.
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