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Re: Thank you, GitHub

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> the people of Iran can end these sanctions at any time Sorry to bite on this off-topic thing... but, _how_? Overthrowing their government? I guess that would be technically true, but "at any time" seems like a weird phrase to use for that.

Yes. Just look at Libya during the Arab Spring. Democracy is never given, it is earned.

Never given; but taken, sometimes.

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post #319

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Right, I have to admit I don't entirely understand the .NET kerfuffle. .NET is clearly Microsoft's language ecosystem, just as much as Swift is Apple's, and much more so than, say, Go is Google's. A lot of the value in .NET is how it works with the Microsoft ecosystem - or put another way, as someone who mostly doesn't develop on Windows (but uses Windows a lot as a desktop OS), I have never once felt that .NET was t…

> It is pretty cool that this isn't true. But the idea that Microsoft organizationally having control over the .NET open source project is somehow bad for open source is just incomprehensible to me, who grew up on .NET not being open source at all. It's not about open-source: it's more that major organizations and industries won't use a programming platform that is entirely at the whims of a company they have no real…

> major organizations and industries won't use a programming platform that is entirely at the whims of a company they have no real control over

100% this, the biggest issue I see with dotnet and Swift is that they're spending too much time trying to be appealing to people who don't want to use them. Swift, as a language, really only makes sense to use if you're extensively targeting Apple systems and planning to skip Windows/Linux altogether. That's a pretty shit deal, from the perspective of developers who want to deliver software to the largest possible audience. Similarly, writing an entire program in dotnet used to be a death sentence until Mono finally got thrown together. Even still it's not a very attractive framework for most cases, which just goes to show how important open governance can be when developing such a complex system.

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In case people missed it. There was two promotions today. A new CEO at GitHub and the person GitHub reports to a MSFT also got promoted. Here’s the internal msft email https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29098640 This person at MSFT who got promoted is the one that caused the problems in the dotnet community where features that had a go-live RTM license (as in merged and ready for long term support) were removed fro…

What do you mean by Python being under them?

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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In case people missed it. There was two promotions today. A new CEO at GitHub and the person GitHub reports to a MSFT also got promoted. Here’s the internal msft email https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29098640 This person at MSFT who got promoted is the one that caused the problems in the dotnet community where features that had a go-live RTM license (as in merged and ready for long term support) were removed fro…

I use most of those technologies daily, and I'm across much of the "controversies" and issues, but I don't get what you're hinting at.

Feel free to be more candid...

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I should say that back in the day Nat was one that got me into coding. His nat.org blog (unfortunately cannot find it anymore on archive) was such an authentic piece of writing with his Xamarin and GNOME adventures along with posts and great photography on his general coding life working for OSS and other smallerish companies such as Novell. It was truly inspiration and made me want to live that life - building cool…

His blog seems to be excluded from archive.org, but I have found archived copies elsewhere. I don't want to link directly but you can find it with a little searching for his "Evolution for Windows" blog post from 2005.

I loved his blog too. I looked and found the post you’re referring to, but can’t find most of the interesting stuff that I recall seeing.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Nat was a great CEO. The best that could have happened to Github after the acquisition IMO. The one time that I won't forget about Github under Nat, was when they stood up for Iranian developers [1]. They went the extra distance to get a permission/license from the US government specially to offer full Github to developers from Iran. Many other companies didn't do something similar. [1]: https://github.blog/2021-01-0…

I wonder if services of non-Iranians ever get canceled if they travel to Iran for vacation or business. Has anyone heard of that happening?

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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As acquisitions go, this has probably been one of the best executed ones in recent history. MS deserves a lot of credit for having managed that very well. And I'm sure a lot of that is also due to Nat's management.

I'll take the "con" side. A lot of the core Rubyists left for Shopify after the sale, and I'm sure Nat had a contract to stay on for X amount of time, where Microsoft would make no major changes. Now that this is expiring, I fully expect Microsoft to start making changes with the site that will appeal to large corporations, at the expense of what I would prefer, as an individual user. I guess time will tell.

What changes are you expecting?

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, I have to admit I don't entirely understand the .NET kerfuffle. .NET is clearly Microsoft's language ecosystem, just as much as Swift is Apple's, and much more so than, say, Go is Google's. A lot of the value in .NET is how it works with the Microsoft ecosystem - or put another way, as someone who mostly doesn't develop on Windows (but uses Windows a lot as a desktop OS), I have never once felt that .NET was t…

> It is pretty cool that this isn't true. But the idea that Microsoft organizationally having control over the .NET open source project is somehow bad for open source is just incomprehensible to me, who grew up on .NET not being open source at all. It's not about open-source: it's more that major organizations and industries won't use a programming platform that is entirely at the whims of a company they have no real…

> it's more that major organizations and industries won't use a programming platform that is entirely at the whims of a company they have no real control over and without independent means to ensure it keeps on working,

That is a risk that is common to every single industry, and as such is a risk that is easily understood and quantifiable. We live in an interdependent world. You're always going to be dependent on suppliers, vendors, equipment etc. We have seen how covid related supply chain issues have affected everyone. Atleast with a S/W platform, what you have in-hand continues to work, and you can continue to use the compiler, libraries, etc to churn out new binaries.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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>"Build, test, and deploy your code right from GitHub"

And then loose everything if the supreme being puts you on a blacklist just because it stopped liking your government.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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post #329

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"You don't have the social skills to realize people can infer tone, so here let your fellow computer tell it to you" third person shows up to pick a fight with the computer. Never chance y'all. - And for the record, if someone complains about a piece of writing, and you tell them "simply not to read it" You are being a passive aggressive joke, and you are clearly upset with their critique. People are allowed to disli…

> I am talking to a guy who wants to argue with an ML model Are you suggesting ML models are infallible? You might want to sit down before I tell you the news...

I physically cringed reading this.

My comment said something a social skill as simple as inferring tone is too far above you.

Now here you are, still trying argue about the ML model that was used to compare your social skills to that of a text analysis model.

Hint: It was never about the ML model.

Like at first it was funny, now it's just sad. It's too on the nose.

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