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Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by Fauntleroy » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 9:55 PM UTC

voz_ wrote: post #130

vkou wrote: post #84

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Seattle has always been a socially liberal, bend-over-backwards for business town. It's how it can legalize marijuana and magic mushrooms, while having 11,000 people living in tents and homeless shelters. Unsurprisingly, since nobody likes seeing tents in city parks, and by the I-5 on-ramps, the city voted for a slate of politicians that will... Maintain the status quo. There's no plan for getting ~5,500 people house…

I don't want status quo, but I also don't want them housed. I want the ones that steal, rape, squat in parks, do drugs, sell drugs, defecate in public, and litter to all be thrown in jail.

The thirst for punishment over improvement ultimately keeps the problem going. Any chance you'd prefer to break the cycle rather than continue it?

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by klyrs » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 9:56 PM UTC

lalaithion wrote: post #139

voz_ wrote: post #130

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I don't want status quo, but I also don't want them housed. I want the ones that steal, rape, squat in parks, do drugs, sell drugs, defecate in public, and litter to all be thrown in jail.

So you want the government to house them at taxpayer cost!

Three squares, a roof, and jobs for all the police, judges, guards, and lawyers involved. Oh, and a criminal record to ensure that future employment will be even harder upon their eventual release. And another jail with at least 5,000 beds. Taxes gotta go somewhere, I guess...

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by renton_wal » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 9:56 PM UTC

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #65

busymom0 wrote: post #29

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Love it how basic and down to earth his ad is.

sort of like how GW Bush was the one you'd rather have a beer with (than Al Gore)? When will Americans realize that being "the sort of down to earth person you'd rather have a beer with" is not a qualification for political office?

Spoken like a true technocrat

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by advrs » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 9:56 PM UTC

voz_ wrote: post #130

vkou wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seattle has always been a socially liberal, bend-over-backwards for business town. It's how it can legalize marijuana and magic mushrooms, while having 11,000 people living in tents and homeless shelters. Unsurprisingly, since nobody likes seeing tents in city parks, and by the I-5 on-ramps, the city voted for a slate of politicians that will... Maintain the status quo. There's no plan for getting ~5,500 people house…

I don't want status quo, but I also don't want them housed. I want the ones that steal, rape, squat in parks, do drugs, sell drugs, defecate in public, and litter to all be thrown in jail.

Are you suggesting that jail (aka expensive housing funded by the public) is the most effective solution to these crimes/behaviors? For example, do you think the population of people who defecate in public are going to be deterred due to the threat of imprisonment?

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by busymom0 » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 9:57 PM UTC

colinmhayes wrote: post #133

busymom0 wrote: post #95

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Gun control is over in Virginia at least. The Lt. Governor's election campaign was her at a gun range. And Governor Youngkin is also pro-2A. When 25.8% of the shootings are coming from Chicago which has just 0.8% population, maybe it's time to focus on gangs instead of making life miserable for legal gun owners.

Democrats still control the senate in virginia so I'm not sure gun control is over. Biased because I live in Chicago, but it's legitimately impossible to stop gangs as long as it's possible to get a gun. As soon as someone is arrested there are 5 kids ready to take their place. The only solutions to gun violence here are end poverty or stop guns from out of state from entering the city.

> stop guns from out of state from entering the city

Stop letting them use gun control to ignore the underlying issues in the community.

ME: Chicago has strict gun control but high gun violence.

Gun Control: They get guns from states with loose gun control.

ME: But those states don't have the same gun violence

Gun Control: Places in Chicago are poor & neglected so there's more violence.

ME: BINGO, it's a socioeconomic issue not a gun issue!

Last I checked on July 13, Chicago has 25.8% of shootings despite having 0.8% of the population.

Mexico has extremely restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There is only one gun store in the entire country, and it takes months of paperwork to have a chance at purchasing one legally.

Similar in India. Making guns illegal doesn't stop any of that. In India, underground criminals make the guns out of everyday stuff. And now a days, 3D printing had made this process even easier.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by post_break » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 9:57 PM UTC

tootie wrote: post #109

post_break wrote: post #77

I find this part hilarious "Durr said he entered the race after being denied a concealed carry permit despite having a clean record." So the state with one of the most strict gun laws burns someone, and now he's probably going to win. I wonder if he's going to start turning screws to get their permit issue laws changed. Did you know in NJ you can not posses hollow point bullets? You can go to jail. 18 months in priso…

It's so bonkers. America has the most unfettered gun ownership laws in the developed world by a mile and somehow it's still a political wedge that can outweigh healthcare, fair taxation, education.

Show me someone who is for healthcare, unions, college, but also doesn't want to take a black marker to the second amendment, I'll wait. Until the left stops going after guns, single issue voters will keep voting the way they do.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by lotsofpulp » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 9:57 PM UTC

koolba wrote: post #68

acheron wrote: post #54

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The secret ballot is normally considered a cornerstone of democracy. Mail in voting completely destroys that. In my jaded perspective, that’s exactly why certain people and organizations love it so much.

Indeed. If you think the results from yesterday were a shellacking, imagine the carnage if there was no early or mail-in voting. In VA in particular there were ballots cast as early as late September. Given the turn of the contest in the final weeks, nobody could say with a straight face they would have all lined up to vote for McAuliffe in person. There's a reason certain groups want to bank those votes in advance.

No one is forced to vote early with mail in ballots.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by Loughla » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 9:57 PM UTC

busymom0 wrote: post #136

Loughla wrote: post #111

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I mean, it's just the old argument of does the power corrupt or do the corrupt seek out power. I believe it's the power itself. I do not believe politicians go into politics exclusively for what they can gain. I believe many, if not most, really believe their ideas are best and can help people. . . the graft and corruption just sort of comes in later when they realize all that is possible.

Career politicians definitely stay in to seek power and money. But a life time truck driver isn't likely going for that I think.

Why?

Don't truck drivers want money and influence as well, or are they somehow inherently different for reasons that I do not currently understand?

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Post by advrs » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 9:58 PM UTC

Covzire wrote: post #120

nostromo wrote: post #48

A Republican just won an election in Seattle City Government for the first time in three decades. This election has seen some big shifts in the electorate, even in some deeply-Democratic areas. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/republica...

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That word has completely lost all meaning and historical context at this point, hasn't it?

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 9:58 PM UTC

colinmhayes wrote: post #133

busymom0 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gun control is over in Virginia at least. The Lt. Governor's election campaign was her at a gun range. And Governor Youngkin is also pro-2A. When 25.8% of the shootings are coming from Chicago which has just 0.8% population, maybe it's time to focus on gangs instead of making life miserable for legal gun owners.

Democrats still control the senate in virginia so I'm not sure gun control is over. Biased because I live in Chicago, but it's legitimately impossible to stop gangs as long as it's possible to get a gun. As soon as someone is arrested there are 5 kids ready to take their place. The only solutions to gun violence here are end poverty or stop guns from out of state from entering the city.

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