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Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by lotsofpulp »

acheron wrote: post #54
mynameisash wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in WA now, came from MN. It infuriates me thinking about voting in-person: my wife and I used to go to our city hall, wait in line maybe a half hour to 45 minutes. We'd snake our way through the line, get our IDs checked, fill out these forms just so , and if you get a technicality wrong, you'd have to work with someone to fix it. Yadda yadda, finally you'd have time in a booth to cast your vote. But now in WA, m…

The secret ballot is normally considered a cornerstone of democracy. Mail in voting completely destroys that. In my jaded perspective, that’s exactly why certain people and organizations love it so much.

I think you can have a secret ballot with mail in too if you drop it off in person.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by busymom0 »

detaro wrote: post #33
cdot2 wrote: post #8

According to this website he won but according to ballotopedia he lost?

link? I can't find any results on that level on ballotopedia yet?

If you can sign up to DecisionDesk, you can see it:

https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/nov-2-2021-elections

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Post by chiefalchemist »

Where / how can similar situations be identified? That is, consistemtly low turn out rate in an area where the incumbent isn't that highly rated? With such info, a dare I say agile "start up" party could make 2022 very interesting.

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

busymom0 wrote: post #29
barney54 wrote: post #9

Here's his campaign ad. https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1455899165230354448?s=20 South Jersey obviously isn't very happy with New Jersey's leadership.

Love it how basic and down to earth his ad is.

sort of like how GW Bush was the one you'd rather have a beer with (than Al Gore)?

When will Americans realize that being "the sort of down to earth person you'd rather have a beer with" is not a qualification for political office?

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Post by davidw »

rayiner wrote: post #60
davidw wrote: post #38

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> And mandating something which neither prevents catching, nor transmitting the virus is definitely not a "minor inconvenience". They have studied this though. Actual scientists, not people on Youtube or Facebook, and they have found that masks diminish the transmission of COVID-19. This is kind of what you'd expect with something airborne.

By how much, and is it worth it? The first is a scientific question. The second is a political question. Americans fail because neither side recognizes the difference. Other developed countries are not masking kids as young as we are doing. Countries like France are rescinding mask mandates now. For us, there is no end in sight, even in highly vaccinated areas.

We went to Italy over the summer, and mask usage was ubiquitous. Nothing fancy, just the basic surgical ones. They are required in schools there because children come into contact with adults.

"Is it worth it" is an ongoing question; at some point, it's probably not, but we're not there just yet. Our vaccination rates are still pretty low. And remember: the bellowing about masks started before we even had vaccines.

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Post by koolba »

acheron wrote: post #54
mynameisash wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in WA now, came from MN. It infuriates me thinking about voting in-person: my wife and I used to go to our city hall, wait in line maybe a half hour to 45 minutes. We'd snake our way through the line, get our IDs checked, fill out these forms just so , and if you get a technicality wrong, you'd have to work with someone to fix it. Yadda yadda, finally you'd have time in a booth to cast your vote. But now in WA, m…

The secret ballot is normally considered a cornerstone of democracy. Mail in voting completely destroys that. In my jaded perspective, that’s exactly why certain people and organizations love it so much.

Indeed. If you think the results from yesterday were a shellacking, imagine the carnage if there was no early or mail-in voting. In VA in particular there were ballots cast as early as late September. Given the turn of the contest in the final weeks, nobody could say with a straight face they would have all lined up to vote for McAuliffe in person. There's a reason certain groups want to bank those votes in advance.

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Post by BikiniPrince »

stickyricky wrote: post #21
lotsofpulp wrote: post #12

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People where I live get a ballot and a book in the mail weeks before the election with details for all the candidates and questions, and all you have to do is drop it in the outgoing mail. Takes no more than 30min of your time, maybe 1 hour if you are a slow reader. And yet, less than 20% voter participation. It is ironic that turnout for national elections, where their vote is moot is much higher. But for school boa…

WA? That's how it was in Vancouver when I lived there. Best system I've experience so far. Also felt the government was very fair and in line with the community.

The book is terrible. I toss it out and read the proposal or at the worst look it up on a few sites that track issues. There is not enough information for complex issues and the wording in my experience is very biased. It takes me more time to vote, but at least I can make an informed decision.

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Post by jamroom »

acheron wrote: post #54
mynameisash wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in WA now, came from MN. It infuriates me thinking about voting in-person: my wife and I used to go to our city hall, wait in line maybe a half hour to 45 minutes. We'd snake our way through the line, get our IDs checked, fill out these forms just so , and if you get a technicality wrong, you'd have to work with someone to fix it. Yadda yadda, finally you'd have time in a booth to cast your vote. But now in WA, m…

The secret ballot is normally considered a cornerstone of democracy. Mail in voting completely destroys that. In my jaded perspective, that’s exactly why certain people and organizations love it so much.

Mail in voting is still secret ballot - you have an internal "secrecy sleeve" that is in turn mailed in an outer envelope. The outer envelope signature is compared to the signature on file, and then the internal envelope is removed but is not opened in the same location.

https://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/wa_vbm.pdf

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/barr-secret-vote-fac...

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