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Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

ehfeng wrote: post #255
mohanmcgeek wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that matters in the context of what's being discussed here. If there were any retention contracts that came with GitHub acquisition, that probably didn't apply to him.

You misunderstand why I brought up him being from Xamarin. The initial conversation was about how Nat was likely leaving because his contract ran out. The counterpoint was that he was from the Microsoft side and therefore he didn't have a retention contract. I brought up Xamarin because he was likely under a retention contract from that acquisition. That being said, these contracts probably had little to no effect on…

> I brought up Xamarin because he was likely under a retention contract from that acquisition.

Microsoft bought Xamarin in February 2016. I'm sure five-year retention contracts are possible, but that seems extraordinarily long; I've rarely seen longer than two years.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by BoorishBears »

peterdn wrote: post #231
BoorishBears wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A tongue-in-cheek reference to the fact HN users act like basic social skills like the ability to infer tone are voodoo gets dissected like this? You can't make up this stuff up. To the reply: > would not be acceptable in any social setting otherwise You're close to getting it! In a normal social setting if someone says "If you don't like X don't interact with it!" that can reasonably understood as a negative stateme…

> In a normal social setting if someone says "If you don't like X don't interact with it!" that can reasonably understood as a negative statement. Except they didn't say that, did they? What they said verbatim was "simply do not read it" which is a much more reasonable tone than how you seemingly interpreted it. Whether it's negative or not also depends on the context which in this case is a proposed solution to lite…

"You don't have the social skills to realize people can infer tone, so here let your fellow computer tell it to you"

third person shows up to pick a fight with the computer.

Never chance y'all.

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And for the record, if someone complains about a piece of writing, and you tell them "simply not to read it"

You are being a passive aggressive joke, and you are clearly upset with their critique.

People are allowed to dislike things, and gasp even hate things, you don't need to get all max passive aggression over that.

Not everyone lives in an echo chamber of timidity where all emotions must be moderate some of you put yourselves in.

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The person I replied to had no answer to the actual point I made, so they tried to derail the conversation to "how dare you claim I'm upset!" which was a complete aside in my comment as it was in theres.

Yet now I am talking to a guy who wants to argue with an ML model so I guess well played?

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #221

Most people probably say this just to be like “I know Nat, look at me.” I don’t know how to phrase this to avoid that: Nat is an incredible person. I’ve been lucky to get to know him over the past couple months. Not only is he super chill, but he’s also not afraid to ask basic questions. Many of you might roll your eyes at that, but it’s a real problem: when you’re organizing something, you feel pressured to know eve…

> I don’t know if anyone will see this. But I just wanted to write a little note to say how rare Nat is. He actually cares — deeply — and also cares about you. Most leaders don’t.

That's the worrying thing - how will Github be 5 years from now without Nat at the helm.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

ghuntley wrote: post #282

In case people missed it. There was two promotions today. A new CEO at GitHub and the person GitHub reports to a MSFT also got promoted. Here’s the internal msft email https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29098640 This person at MSFT who got promoted is the one that caused the problems in the dotnet community where features that had a go-live RTM license (as in merged and ready for long term support) were removed fro…

Nat successfully Embraced, and Extended Github. I'm just hoping he wasn't the one holding back an inevitable Extinguish... but here we are

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #277
TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #206

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I'll take the "con" side. A lot of the core Rubyists left for Shopify after the sale, and I'm sure Nat had a contract to stay on for X amount of time, where Microsoft would make no major changes. Now that this is expiring, I fully expect Microsoft to start making changes with the site that will appeal to large corporations, at the expense of what I would prefer, as an individual user. I guess time will tell.

I don't see it. MS has Azure DevOps for their Ms-specific stack and Enterprise. GH is the closed source app where people come to do open source, and way too valuable as-is.

Bingo. This is precisely my point. I think they're going to phase out DevOps and replace it with GitHub in their lineup.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by nothatscool »

ghuntley wrote: post #282

In case people missed it. There was two promotions today. A new CEO at GitHub and the person GitHub reports to a MSFT also got promoted. Here’s the internal msft email https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29098640 This person at MSFT who got promoted is the one that caused the problems in the dotnet community where features that had a go-live RTM license (as in merged and ready for long term support) were removed fro…

Strong feeling of impending doom

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by junon »

BoorishBears wrote: post #322
peterdn wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In a normal social setting if someone says "If you don't like X don't interact with it!" that can reasonably understood as a negative statement. Except they didn't say that, did they? What they said verbatim was "simply do not read it" which is a much more reasonable tone than how you seemingly interpreted it. Whether it's negative or not also depends on the context which in this case is a proposed solution to lite…

"You don't have the social skills to realize people can infer tone, so here let your fellow computer tell it to you" third person shows up to pick a fight with the computer. Never chance y'all. - And for the record, if someone complains about a piece of writing, and you tell them "simply not to read it" You are being a passive aggressive joke, and you are clearly upset with their critique. People are allowed to disli…

> I am talking to a guy who wants to argue with an ML model

Are you suggesting ML models are infallible? You might want to sit down before I tell you the news...

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Post by 908B64B197 »

rsync wrote: post #246
ya3r wrote: post #220

Nat was a great CEO. The best that could have happened to Github after the acquisition IMO. The one time that I won't forget about Github under Nat, was when they stood up for Iranian developers [1]. They went the extra distance to get a permission/license from the US government specially to offer full Github to developers from Iran. Many other companies didn't do something similar. [1]: https://github.blog/2021-01-0…

"They went the extra distance to get a permission/license from the US government specially to offer full Github to developers from Iran." Wait, that's a thing ? We get a signup from Iran about once every month and I always, apologetically, send a personal note saying that I wish we could provide service to them but ... You're saying rsync.net can legally provide service to Iranians with ... some paperwork ?

> You're saying rsync.net can legally provide service to Iranians with ... some paperwork ?

A lot of it probably. Also, not sure how you can collect payment from these users. And keep in mind your software might end up being used by their regime for oppressive purpose.

Keep in mind the people of Iran can end these sanctions at any time. It's a personal and societal choice.

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