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Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Most people probably say this just to be like “I know Nat, look at me.” I don’t know how to phrase this to avoid that:

Nat is an incredible person. I’ve been lucky to get to know him over the past couple months. Not only is he super chill, but he’s also not afraid to ask basic questions. Many of you might roll your eyes at that, but it’s a real problem: when you’re organizing something, you feel pressured to know everything, or else you’ll lose people’s confidence. So all the people who try to act confident also rarely ask basic questions.

Hackers are the opposite. We’re always focused on breaking down problems into the most basic components, and then building up complexity once we understand the system.

When Nat reached out to me, I didn’t know what to expect. But I certainly didn’t expect him to be a fellow hacker that happened to be famous. I think it’s incredible that someone can go so long without losing that spirit — imagine suddenly having a boatload of money. Most of us would probably take things easier.

Another surprise is how incredibly chill he is. When things go seriously wrong, he’s totally cool about it, in a way that’s hard to put into words. I learned the phrase “No stress, friend” from him, and I’ve used it a few times to soothe other people. As cliche as it sounds, sometimes it’s the one thing in the world you need to hear.

I wish I could tell a certain story to underscore the point, but Nat’s stories are his to tell. I hope he writes a book someday — nothing fancy, just a raw thought stream of all his experiences.

And I wish I could share his future ambition. It’s so exciting that I can hardly contain myself. It might not work out, but that’s true of everything.

I don’t know if anyone will see this. But I just wanted to write a little note to say how rare Nat is. He actually cares — deeply — and also cares about you. Most leaders don’t.

If someone reading this has the opportunity to work with him on his new project, I encourage you to leave your cushy job on that basis alone. It’ll be fun in a way you won’t experience elsewhere.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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post #79

Is this a sign of the continued progression of GitHub to be further molded in Microsoft's image? Usually there's a churn in leadership when the alignment isn't there anymore, though it's typically accompanied by graceful public communication.

Embrace, extend, extinguish still alive at MS it seems. E: Pointing out proven, explicitly-defined-in-internal-emails tactics used by Microsoft always seems to get downvoted on HN. Why? Would someone like to start a conversation?

Tactics that were true 20+ years ago are not necessarily still true today. The E E E trope is pithy and a shared cultural experience in our history. This does not immediately imply it is true now. You made no supporting argument as to why this announcement is an example of E E E. As such it contributed little to 0 content to the discussion. I suspect that is why you are getting downvoted in this instance.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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post #79

Is this a sign of the continued progression of GitHub to be further molded in Microsoft's image? Usually there's a churn in leadership when the alignment isn't there anymore, though it's typically accompanied by graceful public communication.

Embrace, extend, extinguish still alive at MS it seems. E: Pointing out proven, explicitly-defined-in-internal-emails tactics used by Microsoft always seems to get downvoted on HN. Why? Would someone like to start a conversation?

Context or Details!! What will they extinguish Github??

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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post #186

Perhaps the moderation can consider changing the title to "GitHub names new CEO as Nat Friedman steps down"?

I considered it, briefly changed it, but reverted it.

Reason for changing: probably the most important exception to HN's title rule ("Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.") is in the case of corporate press releases, whose bland titles are usually a kind of misdirection (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...).

Reason for reverting: on reflection I think the title is more Nat's voice than corporate PR, and I'd rather respect that.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you're a corporate leader, the way you speak is by default a form of corporate speak, because as a public figure who is listened to, everything you say is a reflection of the brand.

No. Corporate speak is a specific way of speaking.

Will you agree with this?

Corporate speak, definition:

- to say what's in the best interest of the corporation, no matter what the circumstance

- to not tell the truth, unless it's something that can become a huge PR success for the corporation

- to not tell a lie, unless it's something that can become a huge PR success for the corporation

For the "Musk speak" definition, simply replace "the corporation" with "Musk".

Re: Thank you, GitHub

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post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if he stick with Microsoft long enough would he have a chance of becoming the next M$ CEO.

Many people within Microsoft felt that he was a clear contender for Satya's eventual successor.

Damn. Satya is 54, within 10 years he could definitely be the CEO. But I guess most entrepreneur just dont like sticking around and not building.

Re: Thank you, GitHub

#229
post #11

If I read another piece of American corporate crap --- plastic, formulaic, always-be-selling --- I'm gonna throw up on my keyboard. The write-up is rife with stock phrases, and vapid emotionalism. Somewhere when the rest of us are busy there's a room somewhere where people get the cheat-sheet, fill-in-the-blank training that produces this junk. Look the guy probably had some success and met some great people. So why…

He probably can but doesn't want to. He may be posturing for whatever thing he wants to do next which requires being "very professional" (aka high-quality executive bullshit). Or he might just be boring as hell. My dad was an executive, and he was one of the most bland and uncreative human beings I've ever met.

Could you please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

Re: Thank you, GitHub

#230

If person's legacy is a list of all the good things (or bad things) they've done during their time, Nat's legacy as the CEO of GitHub can also be summed into a list. Let me get started...I only remember this one thing but other users of HN can help add more I supposed: - That one time when Nat spoke against DMCA law and said taking down youtube-dl was wrong and he actively pushed for their reinstatement. [1] [1] http…

I also rememebr how he refused to drop ICE, and tried to treat violations of humans rights as if they were carbon offsets.
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