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Re: Why Arabic is Terrific

#31

This is a great article, but Firefox chokes on the block at the top, and switches to ISO-8859-1 encoding. Go View -> Character Encoding -> Unicode (UTF-8) to have the Arabic examples render correctly.

Ah, but which Firefox?

Rendered perfectly fine in Firefox 7 on Vista 64-bit.

Re: Why Arabic is Terrific

#32
> For exmaple, here are some "words" consisting of a single letter repeated three times:

> ييي ععع ههه ككك للل

Which for me looks like (asciified):

> USUSUS 010101 UtUtUt UfUfUf UnUnUn

I'm guessing I'm missing a font or something? (Firefox 6)

Re: Why Arabic is Terrific

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There are a few words that take a regular plural suffix, but most of the time to make a plural you have to change the structure of the word quite dramatically: The structural change is regular. That is you don't have to learn each name plural. The Arabic writing system is exotic looking but easy to learn, which is a rare combination. The language uses a straightforward alphabet, but because letters change their shape…

> The structural change is regular. That is you don't have to learn each name plural. Not all the time. And if they do, there still are subtle variations in suffixes. For example: - Kalb (dog) => Kilab (dogs) - Liss (thief) => Losous (thieves) - Karoura (bottle) => Kawarir (Bottles) - etc. > I thought the same thing for English and French, no? When I learn English and French in school, we join letters. Yes, but that…

> Not quite: what you cite are just pronouns, but the conjugation and grammar doesn't vary. For instance, conjugating the verb manger (to eat) with feminine plural "elles" and masculine plural yields the same "mangent", whereas in Arabic you have different forms.

It's mostly true that the verb form stays the same in French regardless of the gender of the subject. However, they are exceptions. If a verb conjugates conpound tenses with être, then the past participle is considered an adjective and must agree with the subject, e.g.:

Ils sont allés = They went (one or more male)

Elles sont allées. = They went (all female)

Re: Why Arabic is Terrific

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

“The books, she is green” is not very unique to Arabic actually. It's also how you'd say it in Polish, for example. Most languages, that have feminine and masculine forms (unlike English), have some arbitrary rules as to what form to assign for different material objects.

I think the point here was more about how Arabic treats groups of non-human objects as feminin singular . I assume that in Polish you would use a plural form of "green" when talking about multiple books and you would only use the feminine form if "book" is a feminine word.

Maybe the underlying idea is that "a group of something is green", and a group is singular and is feminine (at least in Russian ^^)

Re: Why Arabic is Terrific

#35
Have you ever wondered why numbers are written backwards in English? Why do we write the highest-order digits first and proceed to the lower-order digits?

Well these numbers originated in Arabic, and since Arabic is written right-to-left, writing numbers in Arabic actually follows a more logical order: start with the lowest-order digit, and move on to the higher-order ones.

Apparently when the concept was brought into Europe, they failed to account for the different writing directions.

Re: Why Arabic is Terrific

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> For exmaple, here are some "words" consisting of a single letter repeated three times: > ييي ععع ههه ككك للل Which for me looks like (asciified): > USUSUS 010101 UtUtUt UfUfUf UnUnUn I'm guessing I'm missing a font or something? (Firefox 6)

View -> Character Encoding -> Unicode

Interestingly Chrome auto-corrected this.

Re: Why Arabic is Terrific

#37
I believe Arabic is the language with the largest variety in sounds. A lot of these sounds don't exist in other languages, such as the deep-throated 'ain and the seemingly many different ways to make an 's' sound, each with subtle differences. A friend of mine said it makes speaking very relaxing as it involves so many parts of the throat and mouth.

I read somewhere once that Arabic is also the language with the largest vocabulary of words - something like three million versus one million for English. Don't know if this is true or not.

Re: Why Arabic is Terrific

#38
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Without having any intention of sounding bias,let's ignore that it belongs to some faith, if Arabic is recited properly then it does sound amazing even if you can't understand it at all. The sounding of Arabic Alphabets is in such a way that which I hardly found in any other language. Even in my own native language which is quite rich. Do listen a bit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riW4W66ptqI

The linked hymn is also very beautiful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdCPDP5qHy0&feature=relat...

Re: Why Arabic is Terrific

#39
As a side note to the side note, the "Arabist" tradition in the US State Department has been around since the mid 1800s. Robert Kaplan wrote a great book about it: http://www.amazon.com/Arabists-American-Robert-D-Kaplan/dp/0...

(The OP made it sound like elites studying Arabic for their ambassador posts is something new. It just faded in popularity when religious fundamentalists started to rise in influence.)

Re: Why Arabic is Terrific

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post #32

> For exmaple, here are some "words" consisting of a single letter repeated three times: > ييي ععع ههه ككك للل Which for me looks like (asciified): > USUSUS 010101 UtUtUt UfUfUf UnUnUn I'm guessing I'm missing a font or something? (Firefox 6)

Your browser probably auto-detects the encoding as Western (ISO-8959-1). Change it to Unicode (UTF-8) to see the Arabic characters.
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