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Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by GhettoComputers »

hammock wrote: post #106
inopinatus wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having to form an opinion about every damn thing that matters is a) exhausting and b) hubris. It is not possible to be an expert on everything. The best personal outcome doesn't come from making your own assessment of everything from toothpaste to nuclear power. It's when you learn to recognise the difference between someone's reasoned expertise and, well, just about everyone else pushing their viewpoint. The top cur…

>Having to form an opinion about every damn thing that matters is a) exhausting and b) hubris. It is not possible to be an expert on everything. That's a cynical take, and it illuminates the importance of good education, so that "hubris" as you put it is minimized and right judgment is maximized. Even more important when most children's education is more and more geared away from critical thinking, and instead toward…

Someone stated everyone in the US has an opinion. He wrote a book that sold well and was carrying copies to the US, the worker there took a look at his cargo and exclaimed "nobody will buy it". Do we really need opinions on everything?

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by pimlottc »

chomp wrote: post #46
MrPatan wrote: post #30

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Who told you to think that, Twitter or Facebook?

What’s the difference between a billion dollar corporation and a million dollar corporation in terms of the content that’s curated and presented to you? Is it that it feels like Joe doesn’t curate his guests? Because I assure you, with the sheer amount of requests he gets, he definitely picks and chooses the guests he has on, even if they’re from across the spectrum of opinion. The idea of “stop letting people contro…

We all pick our own poisons. Unless you've got the time and fortitude to construct your entire worldview from first principles, including a completely independent reconstruction of all of science and history, at some point you have to choose some sources to (mostly) trust using your best judgement. Hopefully you do a good job, but none of us can escape bias and curated selection in our incoming information streams.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by hellotomyrars »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #80
mrjangles wrote: post #76

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I think everyone has the urge to push their views onto other people once they get a platform. It is something instinctual deep within us. We tell ourselves that it is because we are so much smarter than everyone else, and we are the bearers of the one true truth, but really it is just our animal Will To Power at work. Thousands of years of evolution and the need to dominate other groups is really what is driving us t…

> to get all sorts of guests on with all sorts of perspectives - then he just shuts up and listens and asks questions Hard disagree. That may have been the case when he started the podcast but it's famously not the case now. Even the Joe Rogan fans are upset about Rogan talking over experts and forcing his own biased opinions over the evidence: https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/pg3edl/im_not_gon... For a mor…

That is the insidious and sad part. I always thought Joe Rohan was kind of a dick and was not personally interested in the type of content he produced, but that’s okay. I got why people did, it just wasn’t for me.

But the bait-and-switch of things into him now just kind of fully descending into normalizing misinformation and crazy stuff is what helps others buy into it and pushes the discourse even more toxic.

This sad crash-dive into insanity that we’re on is the equivalent of a snowball starting an avalanche. It started a lot further up the mountain, and a lot smaller, but people keep getting swept up in it and it’s hard to know where the bottom is going to be since we’re still in the middle of it.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by GhettoComputers »

konfin wrote: post #62

This thread is a hilarious example of why most people will always be controlled by someone else. There is exactly 5 words talking about Joe Rogan and half the replies are telling how you shouldn't watch him because he spteads misinformation. Meanwhile there has still been no reckoning for the lies the main stream media invented and repeated to invade Iraq and kill a million people.

And there won't be, Bush was contested as a legitimate president but used 9/11 so doubters woud unify under him and reelect him. All the misinformation spread by mainstream media and poor quality social media but they aren't relevant in conversation, only being upset at a spotify podcaster who presents audio that can easily be skipped or whose audio show can be ignored if they really dislike him.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by FpUser »

>"So I got to watch hours and hours of incredibly boring TV shows because there was nothing good on"

I grew up in USSR where TV was for the most part quite pathetic but I did not really dwell on it. There were always books that I was reading in insane amounts and all those long talks with the friends along with some vodka ;)

I am in Canada now. Still do not have TV, still read a lot of books but also do heavy "pulling" from online sources. No so called "social media" though unless HN counts as one.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by robflynn »

GhettoComputers wrote: post #100
robflynn wrote: post #56

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It feels like you're twisting words here. Wanting things to be vetted is not the same thing as saying "everyone has to agree with me." There's a difference between taking a differing opinion and just spouting outright bullshit and lies. Maybe there was some implied sarcasm I missed.

What bullshit and lies are you referring to? If you don’t like his podcast don’t listen to it, others love it. If you only want approved mainstream views it’s strange to impose them on a podcast for someone who believes in aliens, you can watch mainstream news for that.

I'm not speaking about Rogan or anyone in particular. I'm only commenting on "vetting" not meaning "I only want to hear what I want to hear."

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by lotsofpulp »

Gwarzo wrote: post #64
lotsofpulp wrote: post #42

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My definition of regular and pretty nice guy is not someone who spouts off against men who take parental leave to help their newborn and spouse during her recovery. https://www.mediaite.com/podcasts/joe-rogan-goes-after-pete-... Or speaks to someone like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbXV4WtfMtA

The guy has thousands and thousands of hours of him talking online. If you think we couldn't distill from the same volume of your own views that you're "not a regular and pretty nice guy" by linking some bad shit you've said - you're wrong.

I am pretty sure I have not taken that tone with anyone as an adult, and this is not even a candid moment. This is his business, one where the very thing he is selling is his communication with others. And he is not a newbie, this is a relatively recent recording after decades in the show business.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by lotsofpulp »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #65
lotsofpulp wrote: post #42

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My definition of regular and pretty nice guy is not someone who spouts off against men who take parental leave to help their newborn and spouse during her recovery. https://www.mediaite.com/podcasts/joe-rogan-goes-after-pete-... Or speaks to someone like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbXV4WtfMtA

Well, again, nobody can tell you who you personally have to like, but it's important to realize that your standards are not common. Most people don't mind if their friends or family or favorite podcast hosts are a jerk on rare occassion. (It's also important to note that the last clip is entirely out of context, with no information at all on when it happened or where it came from. I'm not saying I know it's false, bu…

Here’s more context then, looks like it’s from 3 years ago?

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/kv5nv5/joe_yells_...

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by GhettoComputers »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #80
mrjangles wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think everyone has the urge to push their views onto other people once they get a platform. It is something instinctual deep within us. We tell ourselves that it is because we are so much smarter than everyone else, and we are the bearers of the one true truth, but really it is just our animal Will To Power at work. Thousands of years of evolution and the need to dominate other groups is really what is driving us t…

> to get all sorts of guests on with all sorts of perspectives - then he just shuts up and listens and asks questions Hard disagree. That may have been the case when he started the podcast but it's famously not the case now. Even the Joe Rogan fans are upset about Rogan talking over experts and forcing his own biased opinions over the evidence: https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/pg3edl/im_not_gon... For a mor…

I like Rhonda Patrick too bad. I didn't watch that episode. He's human and not infallable, but like the redditors you may have an opinion already, and just want to be agreed with, OP in the thread and Joe already formed their opinions and wouldn't change it. No strong force is making you agree that the moon landings were fake or aliens made the pyramids, but you are free to believe so if you want.
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