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Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by gorwell »

__john wrote: post #27
gorwell wrote: post #17

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Huh? Does Rogan run a shop selling trinkets and snake oil? He's a comedian chatting with people and sharing the discussion that you can choose to watch or not. The controversy around him is largely manufactured by a dying corporate media and ruling class threatened by unsanctioned voices. Speaking of being trolled by billionaires...

Doesn't Rogan get more views than most cable news anchors?

Exactly, that's why the corporate media is so threatened by this average Joe.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by mrjangles »

endisneigh wrote: post #14

People need to learn to start forming their own opinions and not being so easily influenced by who said what and thinking about the what itself. Lately I've been wondering if maybe people evolved to be sensitive to the who to make it easier for us to be controlled. Said control can be useful at times.

I've been thinking this exact same thing too. But I think it is also a survival instinct. We don't just believe anyone, we believe those who we perceive to have more power, be it a violent mob demonstration, or someone we see on TV a lot.

Those in power are well aware of this. You will notice that all the propaganda on TV is designed to make people believe that "everyone believes what I believe, I am in the majority". And when election time comes and hard facts seem to prove the propaganda wrong, they very quickly pivot to "Ok sure, but those other people don't count, they are 'uneducate', 'poor', 'evil'... they have no power"

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by heavyset_go »

cronix wrote: post #50
fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #22

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I think ivermectin as treatment for a virus counts as snake oil.

Was that the only "treatment" he did at the time? No. He also took Monoclonal Antibodies and prednisone. Why didn't you bring that up? > In addition to mentioning ivermectin, the podcaster, who has previously stated that the young and healthy should not "worry" about being vaccinated against COVID, said he had also taken monoclonal antibodies and prednisone to treat the disease. > Thus far, three anti-SARS-CoV-2 mono…

Based on my interactions with Rogan fans, this just confirmed biases that ivermectin works and is on par with, or better, than actual treatments like monoclonal antibodies.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

boardwaalk wrote: post #49
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #11

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Joe Rogan's views are very... normal, almost surely closer to those of the typical person than yours or mine. I'm not gonna go around telling people what they can and can't abhor, but I do think it's important to acknowledge that you're in a strong cultural bubble if you're shocked by the things he says.

I'm not personally shocked by things he says, I just think he's not particularly smart and I think he tends to have the same thought processes happening over and over again, which weren't particularly more than sophomoric insightful to begin with. At best I think he might be useful to discover interviewees that actually have interesting things to say and go from there. What I am shocked by (and I suspect this is the…

All the fans I've met are Joe Rogan fans in the same way as other people are BTS fans or Ariana Grande fans. They don't really worry about precisely how smart or insightful he is - they just see him as a cool guy producing content that's fun to listen to.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by GhettoComputers »

over_bridge wrote: post #10
sergiotapia wrote: post #7

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I've seen about 30 joe rogan podcasts over the years as background noise during some dark souls runs - not once does the guy present himself as an expert. if anything he just brings on people who are experts and asks them a bunch of questions. why the hard-on from twitterinas that want to shit on the show because he interviews people accused of "wrongthink"?

I think there's a view that his content has changed recently. I used to watch him a lot in previous years as it really was the best place to just hear conversations with interesting people. Now there's a view that he's taken on a particular political lean and has surrounded himself with conspiracy theorists. I doubt he's actually promoting them but his show does put them in front of a large and impressionable audienc…

He’s believed in aliens and ancient alien civilizations and cited this book way before you noticed conspiracy theorists. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerprints_of_the_Gods

I don’t know when you considered him mainstream but he’s the same.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by sossles »

This is an inevitable side effect of people's tendencies to over-subscribe to information sources. Once it's normal to try and follow 200+ people on Twitter, you're in need of an algorithm to prioritise content, and from there it's an easy side-step to inserting other content you haven't asked for.

Unfortunately even when you don't follow 200 people on Twitter, you're still subject to the same design principles.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by GhettoComputers »

__john wrote: post #27
gorwell wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? Does Rogan run a shop selling trinkets and snake oil? He's a comedian chatting with people and sharing the discussion that you can choose to watch or not. The controversy around him is largely manufactured by a dying corporate media and ruling class threatened by unsanctioned voices. Speaking of being trolled by billionaires...

Doesn't Rogan get more views than most cable news anchors?

Cable is irrelevant for many people since it’s used by older people who still buy cable and watch news.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by mrjangles »

fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #22
gorwell wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? Does Rogan run a shop selling trinkets and snake oil? He's a comedian chatting with people and sharing the discussion that you can choose to watch or not. The controversy around him is largely manufactured by a dying corporate media and ruling class threatened by unsanctioned voices. Speaking of being trolled by billionaires...

I think ivermectin as treatment for a virus counts as snake oil.

Here is a list of 83 peer reviewed studies, conducted by medical professionals, showing the efficacy of Ivermectin in treating COVID.

https://c19ivermectin.com/

Does this mean it works? No. But it does mean that your characterization of it as "snake oil" is completely incorrect. The real question is what kind of manipulation has taken place that could lead people to such a conclusion and who was behind this manipulation?

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by mrjangles »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #80
mrjangles wrote: post #76

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I think everyone has the urge to push their views onto other people once they get a platform. It is something instinctual deep within us. We tell ourselves that it is because we are so much smarter than everyone else, and we are the bearers of the one true truth, but really it is just our animal Will To Power at work. Thousands of years of evolution and the need to dominate other groups is really what is driving us t…

> to get all sorts of guests on with all sorts of perspectives - then he just shuts up and listens and asks questions Hard disagree. That may have been the case when he started the podcast but it's famously not the case now. Even the Joe Rogan fans are upset about Rogan talking over experts and forcing his own biased opinions over the evidence: https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/pg3edl/im_not_gon... For a mor…

Oh ok I take it back then. I haven't watched him in a while. Sad to hear he has changed and given in to the urge to push.
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