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Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

toyg wrote: post #4
iaabtpbtpnn wrote: post #3

Sounded pretty good until "Joe Rogan is also fantastic" at the end there...

Joe Rogan sits squarely at the intersection of "intelligent and curious people who don't vet their sources particularly well" and "batshit-insane folks looking for confirmation of their abhorrent views".

Joe Rogan's views are very... normal, almost surely closer to those of the typical person than yours or mine. I'm not gonna go around telling people what they can and can't abhor, but I do think it's important to acknowledge that you're in a strong cultural bubble if you're shocked by the things he says.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by ccn0p »

iaabtpbtpnn wrote: post #3

Sounded pretty good until "Joe Rogan is also fantastic" at the end there...

Well it is a fitting conclusion if you think about it. Joe Rogan is like a one-man RSS feed of people's thought streams, while being one of the few like it with an audience large enough to challenge an established mainstream narrative and not get "cancelled".

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Post by gherkinnn »

over_bridge wrote: post #10
sergiotapia wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen about 30 joe rogan podcasts over the years as background noise during some dark souls runs - not once does the guy present himself as an expert. if anything he just brings on people who are experts and asks them a bunch of questions. why the hard-on from twitterinas that want to shit on the show because he interviews people accused of "wrongthink"?

I think there's a view that his content has changed recently. I used to watch him a lot in previous years as it really was the best place to just hear conversations with interesting people. Now there's a view that he's taken on a particular political lean and has surrounded himself with conspiracy theorists. I doubt he's actually promoting them but his show does put them in front of a large and impressionable audienc…

The only change I’ve noticed is an increase in boring conversations with unfunny comedians or brick head fighters.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by endisneigh »

People need to learn to start forming their own opinions and not being so easily influenced by who said what and thinking about the what itself.

Lately I've been wondering if maybe people evolved to be sensitive to the who to make it easier for us to be controlled. Said control can be useful at times.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by mountainriver »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #11
toyg wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Joe Rogan sits squarely at the intersection of "intelligent and curious people who don't vet their sources particularly well" and "batshit-insane folks looking for confirmation of their abhorrent views".

Joe Rogan's views are very... normal, almost surely closer to those of the typical person than yours or mine. I'm not gonna go around telling people what they can and can't abhor, but I do think it's important to acknowledge that you're in a strong cultural bubble if you're shocked by the things he says.

Agree, all the noise around him is so strange, when you listen to him he is just a regular and pretty nice guy

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Post by gorwell »

gilbetron wrote: post #5
iaabtpbtpnn wrote: post #3

Sounded pretty good until "Joe Rogan is also fantastic" at the end there...

"Joe Rogan is Gwyneth Paltrow for men" is a spot on analogy I saw recently. If you want interesting science podcasts, at least do Lex Fridman!

Huh? Does Rogan run a shop selling trinkets and snake oil?

He's a comedian chatting with people and sharing the discussion that you can choose to watch or not. The controversy around him is largely manufactured by a dying corporate media and ruling class threatened by unsanctioned voices. Speaking of being trolled by billionaires...

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Post by president »

endisneigh wrote: post #14

People need to learn to start forming their own opinions and not being so easily influenced by who said what and thinking about the what itself. Lately I've been wondering if maybe people evolved to be sensitive to the who to make it easier for us to be controlled. Said control can be useful at times.

This can't happen because most people live in a reality that has been crafted by the media sources they consume. This reality provides the mental safety they have enjoyed for their entire lives and there is no reason to step outside of that bubble. I've had conversations with very successful and highly-educated people who can't come to terms with certain truths unless they are validated by "trusted media".

I'll be the first to say I was like this until only a few years ago. Once you realize that a significant chunk of mainstream media and social networks are heavily curated to influence your thinking, you never see the world the same again. There's a reason they call it being "red-pilled".

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