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The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Post by Barrin92 »

clpm4j wrote: post #18

(Aware of the fact that I'm taking time out of my day to read HN) I really wonder how many adults > 25yrs and < 60yrs have the time to immerse themselves in any type of digital world / metaverse experience. If I was a teenager or in college, then yeah I can see it... but there are so many things to do in the 16hrs we have each day, and I already kick myself for not finishing that book, or getting an extra workout in,…

29 years old no kids here, have lots of coworkers in the same cohort. During the pandemic in particular a lot of friends started to pick up VRChat, and a majority of people in my age group still regularly play games. I think that's not that untypical honestly, I can see quite a few adults sinking at least a few hours per week into it if it gets interesting enough.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Post by wruza »

echelon wrote: post #161
toto444 wrote: post #122

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A big reason the internet took off is one that I guess will be banned by default in the metaverse : 18+ content.

The metaverse that wins will allow 18+ content. Not Zuckerberg.

But there is no P in FAANG. And Steam/etc don’t make their living on adult games. And youtube has no porn on it.

I think the issue with winning it with adult content will remain unchanged, at least for a while. Porn is so classic, that it cannot tunnel through this potential barrier.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Post by allturtles »

thrashh wrote: post #86
vineyardmike wrote: post #41

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I read a recent interview from mark zuck about the metaverse and someone asked him a similar question. He had an actually really insightful answer. 1) Most american adults watch several hours of TV per day. alternatively, many play a few hours of video games. (The actual per-person-per-day numbers are very high compared to the average 2hr/week i watch tv but whatever). Most of TV and Video Games are about ignoring re…

But the metaverse itself is not content. Instead it’s another medium to consume content. Therefore the metaverse isn’t a replacement for a video games or TV. You would simply watch TV or play a video game while in the metaverse. The metaverse in that regard isn’t a new concept, because VR spaces have existed for a long time now. I’ve watched movies in Minecraft more recently, for example. I’ve seen every idea in the…

> It’s the reason why the Internet took a long time to take off: using the Internet on a desktop computer sucks. When smartphones took off, so did the Internet.

This is not true, the Internet took off in the U.S. in the mid-90s: https://ourworldindata.org/internet

The driving force was the WWW, not smartphones.

Personally, I would say exactly the opposite, the only advantage a smartphone has over a desktop computer for Internet usage is portability, otherwise the experience is worse in every way.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Post by wruza »

01100011 wrote: post #55
vineyardmike wrote: post #41

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I read a recent interview from mark zuck about the metaverse and someone asked him a similar question. He had an actually really insightful answer. 1) Most american adults watch several hours of TV per day. alternatively, many play a few hours of video games. (The actual per-person-per-day numbers are very high compared to the average 2hr/week i watch tv but whatever). Most of TV and Video Games are about ignoring re…

TV is relaxing. I can turn my brain off and don't need to do anything. The metaverse is just a fancy videogame that big tech companies need to invent so they can monetize another platform and sell more HW. Sure, if you pay me to work in the metaverse I'll be happy to hang out there. Otherwise I'm not interested.

We’ll do the same thing we are mostly doing with games now: watching somebody playing it sitting next to you, like you’re friends, on some sort of in-game cloud.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Post by pitched »

Matticus_Rex wrote: post #150
nradov wrote: post #145

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I see a lot of assumptions about office worker productivity with zero real world evidence. A lot of home office workers never learned to touch type. How the heck are they supposed to do office work if they can't see their fingers on the keyboard? Voice recognition is no solution, it still sucks for text entry and is completely useless for anything like slide presentations or spreadsheets. There is legitimate potentia…

How is touch typing (or lack of it) related to working in a home office?

Most office work that I’ve seen requires text entry (email, spreadsheets, proposals, etc) and that’s always today done through a keyboard. Doing that work in VR where you can’t see the keyboard is surprisingly tough, even if you can touch type!

I’ve switched out my keycaps for blanks recently to try to force myself to get better at working in VR but I’m still struggling a bit with all the symbols.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Post by gremloni »

astlouis44 wrote: post #87

No, it is not. Neither is Roblox or Fortnite, or VRchat. A single game or world is NOT the metaverse, what is so hard to understand about that for journalists and companies? The metaverse is the immersive internet, as a successor to our current one that is more 2D oriented around photos/videos/text today. It's a paradigm shift in how we interact, but most importantly there will be many of these virtual worlds/spaces…

Plus if it doesn’t look good and have porn it’s no good.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Post by mbesto »

kibwen wrote: post #49
vineyardmike wrote: post #41

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I read a recent interview from mark zuck about the metaverse and someone asked him a similar question. He had an actually really insightful answer. 1) Most american adults watch several hours of TV per day. alternatively, many play a few hours of video games. (The actual per-person-per-day numbers are very high compared to the average 2hr/week i watch tv but whatever). Most of TV and Video Games are about ignoring re…

I'm frustrated that everywhere I look I keep seeing "metaverse" and "VR" used interchangeably. All of the things described above are VR, and none of them are the metaverse. Watching TV or playing a game in an immersive, distraction-free VR environment sounds great, and will happen, and it's not the metaverse, it's just VR. Working in a virtual home office has the potential to be extremely productive, ergonomic, and s…

The fact that the definition of the "metaverse" is stipulating so much disagreement and discussion is itself the problem.

When smartphones were launched there was a simple description - "oh cool, it's a traditional phone but it has a computer running inside of it? makes sense"

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Post by gremloni »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #77

To be completely honest, I don't really know what people mean when they talk about a "metaverse". But if I had to define it one way or the other, I feel like I already have, and interact with, a sort of metaverse. I play various video games with various people, talking and interacting with friends for these games on Discord, interacting with the larger community of these games on Discord/Reddit, engaging with influen…

The gold standard would be the matrix but one that you’re aware you’re in and can leave at any time.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Post by jyounker »

toto444 wrote: post #122
thrashh wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the metaverse itself is not content. Instead it’s another medium to consume content. Therefore the metaverse isn’t a replacement for a video games or TV. You would simply watch TV or play a video game while in the metaverse. The metaverse in that regard isn’t a new concept, because VR spaces have existed for a long time now. I’ve watched movies in Minecraft more recently, for example. I’ve seen every idea in the…

A big reason the internet took off is one that I guess will be banned by default in the metaverse : 18+ content.

And this is probably why facebook won't win.
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