Good riddance. Good choice by FB.
Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
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Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#122Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#123The facial recognition feature is how I figured out someone was doxxing and harassing me on their page. Getting the notification that it thinks I appeared in a photo they had ripped from my FB profile was the tip off. I have mixed feelings.
HN is bizarre sometimes. When this feature first appeared, everyone acted like it was the coming of the Antichrist. Now it’s going away and people have “mixed feelings”. I think people just love to hate big tech no matter what they’re doing.
Or... maybe HN is composed of different people with different viewpoints.
People are more motivated to comment when they're upset about something, so it ends up looking like everyone here hates everything big tech does, when it may be that a small number of people hate decision X, a small number of people hate decision Y, and most people either like them or don't care.
You often hear complaints that big tech drives people to extreme viewpoints through algorithms. But the natural human algorithm of putting more effort into the negative than the positive seems to lead to the same outcome.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Knowing that someone I don't know uploaded a photo of me seems like a good feature, yes.
But now everyone else knows, too. That's not such a great feature.
Not if you set Facebook to require your approval for all tags. Then you know before everyone else.
Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#125Highly unlikely that they will delete it. The info collected is too valuable for them to delete it. They may retain the hash or other unique identifiers even if they delete originals. They have shown again and again that they can't be trusted.
trust, once lost, can never be regained.
Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#126The facial recognition feature is how I figured out someone was doxxing and harassing me on their page. Getting the notification that it thinks I appeared in a photo they had ripped from my FB profile was the tip off. I have mixed feelings.
HN is bizarre sometimes. When this feature first appeared, everyone acted like it was the coming of the Antichrist. Now it’s going away and people have “mixed feelings”. I think people just love to hate big tech no matter what they’re doing.
Or, you know, these are different people with different values and different sets of experience.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
"the social network will delete the face scan data of more than one billion users." I believe it because facebook has nothing much to gain by lying about this small thing(after all they still have all the tracking data) and hell lot to loose by lying this straight face among employees.
> and hell lot to loose by lying this straight face among employees. And if, in a year an employee speaks out and leaks that FB never deleted the data? What would happen then? I don't think anything would happen, they wouldn't lose much, and no one would be too surprised.
Normally the cost of cognitive dissonance in tech is $200k/yr. Pay that and you will have a line out your door and around the block of engineers who want to work for you, no matter what you do.
Fortunately Facebook pays for the Cognitive Dissonance Deluxe package which is about $250k-$400k year. They've got plenty of padding to mislead their employees right to their face.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
HN is bizarre sometimes. When this feature first appeared, everyone acted like it was the coming of the Antichrist. Now it’s going away and people have “mixed feelings”. I think people just love to hate big tech no matter what they’re doing.
Or... maybe HN is composed of different people with different viewpoints. People are more motivated to comment when they're upset about something, so it ends up looking like everyone here hates everything big tech does, when it may be that a small number of people hate decision X, a small number of people hate decision Y, and most people either like them or don't care. You often hear complaints that big tech drives p…
This is also why it's much more valuable to look at user metrics than actual feedback when making design decisions.
Individual pieces of feedback can be valuable, but if you let it do the driving then you can end up making changes that worsen your product. You become subject to the will of the most vocal critics at any given moment.
Re: Facebook plans to shut down its facial recognition system
#129So sad that we can't have nice things. I like the feature that automatically tags people in pictures. Sometimes I have trouble remembering people's names (not face blindness or similar, just regular trouble I guess). I would love to have smart glasses that show the name of someone I've met before but don't quite remember. But alas, our society being what it is people will abuse facial recognition, so I can't have tha…
I've also been eagerly awaiting a feature that'd notify me if I ever showed up in a stranger's photos (at concerts, travelling, etc). I know FB has the technology but the feature apparently never materialized.
There's a lot of useful stuff you can do when people stop abusing that stuff.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Or you could just tell them you don't remember. It's rarely rude. It's better to be human. We all forget stuff all the time. I've decided that I must be atypical around name recall for some reason or another. I often do ask, because as you said it is human to forget, but I find myself forgetting like 3 times in the course of a conversation sometimes, I could really use a machine of this sort.
Great! But if it is not without the consent of the person involved though, it is your "convenience" breaching someone else's privacy. I think it is important to think about this.
Is it really breaching someone's privacy to assist your own memory of the things they've chosen to (repeatedly) tell you?