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Re: Firefox 94

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Post by DrBazza »

m_eiman wrote: post #13
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #7

> On Windows, there will now be fewer interruptions because Firefox won’t prompt you for updates. Instead, a background agent will download and install updates even if Firefox is closed. I rather they didn't. EDIT: Ah good, they have an option in the General Settings to disable the background updater.

Why hasn't Microsoft created a system service for this? It's just inefficient to have each and every installed app run a service… I suppose they take care of it for Windows Store apps, but I don't see why they couldn't make a service for other apps too. Same on the Mac, of course.

That just instantly makes me think 'what are the attack surfaces, and vulnerabilities of such a service and how can I abuse it?'

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by amluto »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #58
hoseja wrote: post #10

>On Windows, there will now be fewer interruptions because Firefox won’t prompt you for updates. Instead, a background agent will download and install updates even if Firefox is closed. How considerate of them, I felt I didn't have enough auto-updating background agents yet.

I had to resort to using policies.json in order to disable updates completely. I'm on Firefox 88.0.1 and have zero plans to update and take proton/photon or whatever they are calling the new design.

If you’re lucky, some friendly malicious website will compromise you for the sole purpose of updating your copy of Firefox before someone else compromises you for a more nefarious purpose.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by apocalyptic0n3 »

SwiftyBug wrote: post #17

> Firefox no longer warns you by default when you exit the browser or close a window using a menu, button, or three-key command. Why would anyone want this? On macOS it is infuriantingly easy to press CMD + Q by accident. Why would you not want to confirm that you actually want to close ALL your tabs?

On the flip side, this has always been an infuriating default for me. If I hit CMD+Q, that means I want the program to quit. Not prompt me or make me hold it down or use a different command. CMD+Q = Quit on Mac. Overriding that behavior is annoying and one of the first things I disable on nearly every program I install.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by denton-scratch »

skinkestek wrote: post #39
FriedrichN wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. It's also shrinking to be almost the only reason I run Firefox. I absolutely loathe the constant tinkering with UI and settings, they just can't seem to leave stuff alone. The ghacks user.js does get rid of a lot of nuisances, but I also know some people also want to get rid of the user.js config option.

I wonder if any of them read HN or feedback from the feedback page or anything?

No, they only pay attention to feedback from their telemetry. HN users mostly disable telemetry, right?

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by kd913 »

hoseja wrote: post #10

>On Windows, there will now be fewer interruptions because Firefox won’t prompt you for updates. Instead, a background agent will download and install updates even if Firefox is closed. How considerate of them, I felt I didn't have enough auto-updating background agents yet.

I am glad Windows is moving to a package manager esque system.

It would be nice if rather than reinventing the wheel for the billionth time, apps could just use the OS based update mechanisms where possible. (i.e. App calls apt, or snap, or winget, or windows store, which updates Firefox).

Whether that be store based or packaged based. It really sucks both in resources and UX when apps bundle their own update/install mechanism.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by aaomidi »

LogonType10 wrote: post #57
_jal wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Applications that feel entitled to resources after you tell them to go away lead me to move them into a VM just to contain all the crap and sprawl and bullshit. The number of apps in this category just keeps on growing. I'm starting to feel like I should just run Qubes.

I'm also planning to make the switch. Do you know anyone who's tried Qubes? The finicky hardware requirements are intimidating.

I use qubes for work. I don't like it.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by JshWright »

mawise wrote: post #2

I'm still waiting for Touch ID support on Macs https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1536482

Yep, this is enough friction that it keeps me from using Firefox as my daily-driver on MacOS.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by evilpie »

Congrats to the team on shipping site isolation. This required a lot of work on very fundamental parts like frame/page loading.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by detritus »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #47
sebiw wrote: post #5

> With 94, you’ll find a selection of six fun seasonal Colorways (available for a limited time only). For a limited time only? What the heck? Feels like Starbucks. Otherwise great release of course.

"Colorways"? Like what everyone else calls "themes"? Yeah, you don't actually need to make up your own word for that. That, plus the fact that this is the lead bullet point for their new release makes me think "way too many marketers, not enough engineers".

'Colourways' is a fairly standard term to describe different colour options on various different product types. Mozilla haven't made this up for themselves.

'Theme', to me, suggests ye olde browser customisation wherein you could have animated gifs of Homer Simpson barking D'OH as your 'Home' button, &c. I'm assuming that's not the case here?

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by BitwiseFool »

sorenjan wrote: post #30
SwiftyBug wrote: post #17

> Firefox no longer warns you by default when you exit the browser or close a window using a menu, button, or three-key command. Why would anyone want this? On macOS it is infuriantingly easy to press CMD + Q by accident. Why would you not want to confirm that you actually want to close ALL your tabs?

Why wouldn't you set the browser to save all tabs between sessions?

I like having the warning, period. Misclicks and accidental keystrokes happen. It is so much nicer to have the warning dialog than to have to restore the closed window.

Restoring the window doesn't preserve the data on pages with infinite scroll and it is a crap-shoot on whether or not the progress of a video I was watching gets restored.

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