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Report on Stablecoins [pdf]

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Re: Report on Stablecoins [pdf]

#41

Interesting to read this with an eye on the authors' mindset. Their understanding of stablecoins seems largely centered on Tether (and to a lesser extent, BUSD/USDC). A lot of their understanding is incorrect when applied to algorithmic stablecoins like Dai, eg. there is no central issuing authority; Dai is minted in exchange for Ethereum (and other cryptocurrencies), not fiat currencies; the effect of a run on Dai i…

From the footnotes: """Stablecoins that are purportedly convertible for an underlying fiat currency are distinct from a smaller subset of stablecoin arrangements that use other means to attempt to stabilize the price of the instrument (sometimes referred to as “synthetic” or “algorithmic” stablecoins) or are convertible for other assets. Because of their more widespread adoption, this discussion focuses on stablecoin…

Ah, interesting. Dai is mentioned several times within the body of the report, though, so it's implied that it's covered within the scope of the report.

I'm sure that the distinction will be lost on whatever press cycle or legislative output this report generates.

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#42

> To address risks to stablecoin users and guard against stablecoin runs, legislation should require stablecoin issuers to be insured depository institutions, which are subject to appropriate supervision and regulation, at the depository institution and the holding company level. > To address concerns about payment system risk, in addition to the requirements for stablecoin issuers, legislation should require custodi…

Tether was invented to provide bitfinex with banking services after the banks refused to deal with them. Not super surprising that regulators are treating this banking replacement as a bank.

Re: Report on Stablecoins [pdf]

#43

Tether and other pose a critical systemic risk to all cryptocurrency. Anything to increase trust/transparency with stablecoins is a big with for crypto.

Tether absolutely poses a large risk to crypto. If companies do issue stablecoins, they should have links to third-party attestations that verify proof of reserves like Circle (USDC) does.

Tether could end all of their "FUD" if they ever published such a report.

Circle's reporting: https://www.circle.com/en/usdc#transparency (edited to change audits --> attestations)

Re: Report on Stablecoins [pdf]

#44
This is specifically referring to non-algorithmic stablecoins.

"Stablecoins that are purportedly convertible for an underlying fiat currency are distinct from a smaller subset of stablecoin arrangements that use other means to attempt to stabilize the price of the instrument (sometimes referred to as “synthetic” or “algorithmic” stablecoins) or are convertible for other assets. Because of their more widespread adoption, this discussion focuses on stablecoins that are convertible for fiat currency."

Re: Report on Stablecoins [pdf]

#45

Interesting to see Mastercard, Square, Stripe, FIS, Fiserv and Visa all mentioned in "Market Participants". None of those actively today use/settle stablecoins publicly?

I don't believe they support them today, but all of these companies have announced plans to adopt crypto in some form, including stablecoin support or Ethereum-based settlement.

Re: Report on Stablecoins [pdf]

#46

Interesting to read this with an eye on the authors' mindset. Their understanding of stablecoins seems largely centered on Tether (and to a lesser extent, BUSD/USDC). A lot of their understanding is incorrect when applied to algorithmic stablecoins like Dai, eg. there is no central issuing authority; Dai is minted in exchange for Ethereum (and other cryptocurrencies), not fiat currencies; the effect of a run on Dai i…

That computer code runs somewhere and every IP address leads to a person eventually.

The lifecycle of an autonomous program (colloquially called smart contract) is that it is deployed by an address of a human being or that human being's server, and then the address' first transaction to the autonomous program is to delete the address' administrative capabilities of that program. Autonomous programs live on every validating node of that blockchain, and those validating nodes have no knowledge of the behavior of those programs. The deployment feature publishes the code on all validating nodes, no different than any other transaction. All future behavior of the autonomous program comes from individual users who do not control it.

So for what grandparent poster was referring to, stablecoins collateralized by digital assets, all the collateral is provided by users and all the stablecoins issued were caused by users providing collateral. Those users clearly do not run the autonomous program, no different than a depositor at a bank is not responsible for the bank when they ask for a loan from the bank. There is nobody to sanction, and there is no way to disable the autonomous program that accepts collateral and issues collateralized stablecoin loans.

Also, within EVMs (a type of development platform, growing category of blockchains), the users do not have a record of an IP address (although the node they connect to can record it, to mitigate that the user can run a relaying node from their personal computer. relaying nodes forward to validating nodes. no nodes in an EVM have knowledge of other nodes IP address and no nodes are even aware of which node saw a transaction first). And regarding the tracing of their onchain address, a user can provide collateral from a virgin address funded by other autonomous programs like Tornado which sufficiently mix funds. The programs and the regulators are not capable of factoring in our opinion about that.

Re: Report on Stablecoins [pdf]

#47
This is good. The backing of stablecoins is a very real issue. As the Treasury points out, there's a very real possibility of a run. Two stablecoins have crashed so far, SafeDollar SDO, and $TITAN. They went all the way to zero.

Can Tether survive a net outflow? Probably not. They don't have the collateral.

Dai is really a derivative of Etherium. Dai is backed by Etherium at 150%. So value in Dai is at risk if the price of Etherium drops more than 1/3. Etherium dropped by half back in May 2021, but recovered. DAI could have crashed at that time if it faced a net outflow. It didn't, though.

The real question is what happens in the next recession.

Re: Report on Stablecoins [pdf]

#48
post #47

This is good. The backing of stablecoins is a very real issue. As the Treasury points out, there's a very real possibility of a run. Two stablecoins have crashed so far, SafeDollar SDO, and $TITAN. They went all the way to zero. Can Tether survive a net outflow? Probably not. They don't have the collateral. Dai is really a derivative of Etherium. Dai is backed by Etherium at 150%. So value in Dai is at risk if the pr…

> The real question is what happens in the next recession.

Well, there was a recession just last year and the stock market / BTC market went crazy.

The real question is what happens in the next market downturn (specifically the cryptocoin market downturn, since these "stablecoins" look like they're "stable" only because of assumptions underlying the cryptocoin markets). The cryptocoin markets don't necessarily match up with the general economy.

Re: Report on Stablecoins [pdf]

#49
All these coins are proven to be worthless. When speculation is making everyone money, the money isn't worth much.

Edit: Love the immediate fear downvote. No one wants to hear their gold is really just shiny dirt.

Re: Report on Stablecoins [pdf]

#50

Interesting to see Mastercard, Square, Stripe, FIS, Fiserv and Visa all mentioned in "Market Participants". None of those actively today use/settle stablecoins publicly?

> None of those actively today use/settle stablecoins publicly? No but they settle financial transactions today, and the SEC is basically saying there should be no difference.

> No but they settle financial transactions today, and the SEC is basically saying there should be no difference

This report is from the Treasury. Not the SEC.

Also, the SEC doesn't regulate financial transactions. Just securities and exchanges. The SEC has argued that stablecoins are securities. That is an interesting argument, and I sort of see both sides of it, but somewhat unrelated to this paper.

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