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First confirmed hatchings of two California condor chicks from unfertilized eggs

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Re: First confirmed hatchings of two California condor chicks from unfertilized eggs

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Quite the insult to the male condors. They were housed with the females, and but the females biologically opted for cloning themselves instead.

[Condorman] did poorly at the box office. Disney reportedly lost $9.5 million on the picture. The disappointing financial returns from Condorman, along with three other flop films, contributed to Disney's poor financial performance in 1981.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorman

Re: First confirmed hatchings of two California condor chicks from unfertilized eggs

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Apologies for the low-effort comment, but this really freaks me out. I had no idea birds could reproduce asexually! That's crazy!

Feels like an unanswerable question, but: could we ever see something like this in mammals? A virgin birth, for lack of a better phrase?

Re: First confirmed hatchings of two California condor chicks from unfertilized eggs

#16

There's a perfectly logical, very probable, quite natural explanation, but the "researchers" claiming that their impossible, ridiculous, unfounded explanation can't possibly be wrong because..."muh politics"

What are you trying to say?

Re: First confirmed hatchings of two California condor chicks from unfertilized eggs

#17

So in birds, sex chromosome arrangement is a reverse of what we have in humans. Their males are ZZ and the female is ZW. Which is why only males appear from this parthenogenesis.

> Which is why only males appear from this parthenogenesis

Could you explain the mechanism? If the female has both chromosomes, why couldn't it produce offspring with both?

Re: First confirmed hatchings of two California condor chicks from unfertilized eggs

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Hmm, all birds are dinosaurs. It’s been a long time since I last saw Jurassic Park, but wasn’t something like this a plot line in the film?

Yes, it is exactly this plot line for how the dinosaurs were able to reproduce. All the animals were selected to be female to prevent natural reproduction.

Re: First confirmed hatchings of two California condor chicks from unfertilized eggs

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Hmm, all birds are dinosaurs. It’s been a long time since I last saw Jurassic Park, but wasn’t something like this a plot line in the film?

There is, but if I remember correctly this was due to using frog DNA to fill in missing DNA gaps.

Re: First confirmed hatchings of two California condor chicks from unfertilized eggs

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Apologies for the low-effort comment, but this really freaks me out. I had no idea birds could reproduce asexually! That's crazy! Feels like an unanswerable question, but: could we ever see something like this in mammals? A virgin birth, for lack of a better phrase?

It's been proposed that artificial sperm could be fashioned from a woman's DNA. I suppose a child born from both a mothers egg and "sperm" could be considered a self made clone.
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