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Re: Ask HN: How do you tackle your own negativity?

#121
Of course, this is the majority of the interwebz nowadays. Two things help me:

1. Understanding that negative voices are always louder and you read/hear them more frequently --> there's lot of positivity out there that you simply don't see by default. The world is not a bad place, but our experience is skewed.

2. Looking at negative posts with an understanding of biases and basic human nature. Often we argue just to get the feeling of being right. I've written a post about this: https://leadership.garden/how-to-stop-winning-arguments/

Re: Ask HN: How do you tackle your own negativity?

#122
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You are either optimizing for the wrong thing, or don't know what you want. If want to be as frequently correct as possible, then your "negativity" is strength. The issue with this strategy is that it will prevent you from engaging with the real world the way that positively thinking people do. You will take less chances, since you realize the probabilities of failure are so big. Positively thinking people are kind o…

Being negative is probably statistically correct. But I find it to be more or less a useless model. Most things to be negative about are not actionable. Maybe in the old days, you could be stressed out about a tiger in the area or an upcoming war and it'll literally save lives. But today, you can be stressed out about Trump or COVID-19 and it'll probably change nothing. In fact, COVID-19 impact has been worst where p…

Disclaimer: I'm a pessimist.

>But today, you can be stressed out about Trump or COVID-19

Stress has nothing to do with it. I can agree that stress rarely has application in our modern day lives. You can be a stress-free negative thinker and also it is possible to be a stressed positive thinker. (positive thinkers fail more, it is possible for that to have an impact on people)

>becomes grief - denial, anger, bargaining, depression

Again, none of these are necessities to be a negative thinker.

>Most things to be negative about are not actionable.

That is correct. It is undeniable that negative people are not very effective in our world. Even further - all negative philosophies and religions (Buddhism, stoicism, western pessimism, etc.) focus people on enlightenment and perfecting the person's inner world. A monk has zero interest in changing the world at scale.

However it seems to me that there are certain practicalities about negative thinking. You can be smart with it. If you take it at face value - negative thinking is kind of a superpower, it allows you to think what can possibly go wrong and frequently you more cautious than you had to be. You can use that to minimize risks and if successful - you can take actions, because the risk is no longer that high.

Re: Ask HN: How do you tackle your own negativity?

#123

Several aspects to this in my experience, which is heavily influenced by early buddhist teachings. Firstly, make a habit of seeing the full picture of something you’re evaluating or judging. This might be the ‘other side’ of the story (someone else’s perspective), the benefits of something you’re criticising that you’re otherwise missing, or an understanding of the worth of something you might be defending. Secondly…

What I’d add about Buddhism is the freedom that comes with letting go, of not letting ego make you feel you have to respond, by emotion or by action, to what seems wrong around you. Just let it go, focus on what’s most vital. I always imagine that no matter what happens, the first act is to relax and reflect

Re: Ask HN: How do you tackle your own negativity?

#124

A master and his disciple were travelling together. They happened to come to a river with a strong current. As they were preparing to cross, a lone young woman asked if they could help her to the other side. While the disciple hesitated, the master immediately offered to help. The disciple was in disbelief as he saw his master break his vows by carrying the woman on his shoulders. He couldn't contain himself and a fe…

What were the vows broken? I feel like I’m missing the lead up to the punchline.

What's omitted is the monks had taken a vow not to touch a woman.

[0] https://www.kindspring.org/story/view.php?sid=63753

Re: Ask HN: How do you tackle your own negativity?

#126
This is gonna come out really childish, but here goes:

You know those games where you select the phrases you want your character to say, and certain phrases lead you to different scenarios ?

Games like Detroit become human.

All those choices form a tree where each choice is a branching point. What I've found in RL is that negative actions generally lead to smaller paths in the "choice tree", which is generally no fun and you don't learn and enrich your brain with new information. As in video games, I want to explore all the branches, but you usually can't repeat a choice in real life, so I end up exploring the biggest path that coincides with my preferences, which is the the one with the most content that I like and, coincidentally, most of the times, this is a path that has a good balance of negativity, positivity and neutrality.

So yeah, tldr is: I see some actions in my life as actions in a story branching video game, and I actively look out for actions that give me the longest path in the "action tree" of stuff that I like to do, that indirectly makes me a "balanced" but active person.

Re: Ask HN: How do you tackle your own negativity?

#127

All decisions are based in love or fear. Find your purpose, make sure it's ambitious, make sure it's equitable and helps people. When you are ambitious about your purpose you will be conscious of how little time you have. When you're overwhelmed with progress it's easier to mitigate negativity, you'll be too focused to chime in on the little stuff, or you will empathize for what used to annoy you, and realize you're…

Any advice on the "find your purpose" part?

I’ve found it to be a combination of two things. The first thing is your calling.

What is calling you? What is one problem in this world that you want solved?

That’s the first part. Finding the thing that really doesn’t sit right with you and you want to find a solution to it.

The second part is finding what you love to do. From music to video games to coding to sports to a hobby. It should be something that you would do even if you didn’t get paid to do it. Something that you’d still make time for it even if you had another job doing something else.

When you find those 2 things you combine them. Get really good at what you love to do, and then allow your calling to drive you. Eventually you will be able to create change for your calling through what you love to do.

The closer you get to your purpose the more you’ll start to see the world is actually a program controlled by your thoughts.

It’s important to be honest to yourself about everything.

Re: Ask HN: How do you tackle your own negativity?

#128
I can only talk about my own way of handling it.

I became a more neutral person over years...I accept things as they are and don't complain about things were complaining won't have an impact (yes, stoicism played a role here).

I will be honest and say that I live in a well functioning country with a good job and a decent salary... that being said, so do some of my friends but they like to be negative and do negative spins on things.

There is an overall shift in people to be negative and to search for gotch ya moments. I accept it but I refuse to take a part of it, which means active self reflection as it is very easy to "go there".

Probably unpopular option, inspired by NNT, is to straight go to the "go f... yourself" when someone obviously is taking the most negative aspect of an opinion and is try to hook you for his own "gotchya moment". This cuts through the charade and illusion of respect when in fact the other person is not giving any.

Re: Ask HN: How do you tackle your own negativity?

#129

Several aspects to this in my experience, which is heavily influenced by early buddhist teachings. Firstly, make a habit of seeing the full picture of something you’re evaluating or judging. This might be the ‘other side’ of the story (someone else’s perspective), the benefits of something you’re criticising that you’re otherwise missing, or an understanding of the worth of something you might be defending. Secondly…

There's also the Buddhist concept of "Basic Goodness" which might be interesting here.

Re: Ask HN: How do you tackle your own negativity?

#130

I'm not perfect about this but one experience in particular helped me. I was a new employee doing on-the-job training for an even newer employee, while we were trying to meet a deadline. We were the only two people working on this project, in the middle of rural NM, out of cell range, and having to improvise. He kept making suggestions and I kept explaining why they wouldn't work. Suddenly he point-blank asked me why…

> The best way I've found to interrupt it is to ask myself "what if they're right" and/or "in what way might this person be right that I may not have considered"?

There's also a great question to ask yourself even before those: is it worth it?

A lot of times just ignoring improvements you can see/sense is the right call. Every time you bring up a suggestion (whether it is to a teammate or to yourself) your are affecting the environment in ways that can compound. For instance:

- You may break the creation flow, interrupting the far more important "advancing to the greater goal" by perfecting a middle-step that matters much less and can be easily corrected afterwards if need be.

- You are de-valuing your future suggestions/feelings, because the more stuff you bring up, the less weigh they get in the long run.

- You risk lowering your teammate's confidence / degrading your relationship (just like you were doing in your story).

If you are one of these people who just cannot "let something go", what you can do is write that thing down. Just make a note "revisit X thingy" and come back to it later when the rest is done/clear. This should allow you to actually move forward towards the "big picture" with a clearer mind (i.e.: without having that thread stuck wasting effort on what you just "ignored").

Finally, if the issue is important enough that it requires solving to advance, another great attitude is to ask yourself "how can we make this work?" instead of stopping at "this doesn't work because X".

Propose things even if you can see they don't completely solve the issue. This fosters a collaborative building attitude where you can fill in your teammate's blanks and vice-versa. Simply stating what doesn't work shuts down idea sharing and limits the team's creativity to that of the individuals, instead of the (oftentimes much greater) sum of the team.

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