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Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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Post by downrightmike »

citboin wrote: post #173
contingencies wrote: post #164

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I am a long time Wacom customer and this pisses me off too. I will certainly be trying out alternative brands in future. How about organizing an open source hackfest for alternative tablet brands? Some alternative tablet manufacturers: https://www.veikk.cn/products/ (绘客) https://www.huion.cn/ (绘王) https://www.gaomon.net/Pen_Tablet/ (高漫) https://www.ugee.com.cn/ (友基) https://www.parblo.cn/ (Parblo) http://www.penpower…

I’ve been avoiding those products because they’re Chinese. Can a pihole be used to stop tracking?

all pihole would do is stop ipv4 look up assuming you load a list that blocks it. It doesn't stop ipv6 because those are universal. And things can be hardcoded.

Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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Post by contingencies »

yeko wrote: post #185
citboin wrote: post #173

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I’ve been avoiding those products because they’re Chinese. Can a pihole be used to stop tracking?

There is unofficial open source driver for tablet from these brands. https://github.com/OpenTabletDriver/OpenTabletDriver

Awesome. Just replaced official drivers with it, and it solved an issue I had with my Wacom on KiCad!

Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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Post by xeromal »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #188
playpause wrote: post #168

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If boycotting something comes at a personal cost to the boycotter (such as having to put up with a lesser product that fits their principles better), and they don't have the time or energy to boycott everything that challenges their principles, does that mean they should boycott nothing at all?

"they don't have the time or energy to boycott everything that challenges their principles" Or maybe they don't want to live in a cave. If my principles are "carbon neutral, no spyware, workers were not exploited", I think there are zero washing machines, cars and TVs that meet those criteria.

I doubt there's not even a single computer that can pull that off. Somewhere in the chain was exploitation of workers.

Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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Post by lmm »

playpause wrote: post #168
breakingcups wrote: post #124

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I take it you both also boycott Sony Music Group?

If boycotting something comes at a personal cost to the boycotter (such as having to put up with a lesser product that fits their principles better), and they don't have the time or energy to boycott everything that challenges their principles, does that mean they should boycott nothing at all?

You should set a standard you can live with. If you're boycotting one company for something that you tolerate dozens of other companies doing, you should probably reconsider.

Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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Post by fennecfoxen »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #188
playpause wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If boycotting something comes at a personal cost to the boycotter (such as having to put up with a lesser product that fits their principles better), and they don't have the time or energy to boycott everything that challenges their principles, does that mean they should boycott nothing at all?

"they don't have the time or energy to boycott everything that challenges their principles" Or maybe they don't want to live in a cave. If my principles are "carbon neutral, no spyware, workers were not exploited", I think there are zero washing machines, cars and TVs that meet those criteria.

> If my principles are "carbon neutral, no spyware, workers were not exploited", I think there are zero washing machines

What are you talking about? Check out these bad boys ;) https://www.lehmans.com/category/washers_and_wash_day_access...

Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

lmm wrote: post #194
playpause wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If boycotting something comes at a personal cost to the boycotter (such as having to put up with a lesser product that fits their principles better), and they don't have the time or energy to boycott everything that challenges their principles, does that mean they should boycott nothing at all?

You should set a standard you can live with. If you're boycotting one company for something that you tolerate dozens of other companies doing, you should probably reconsider.

Why?

Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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Post by lmm »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #196
lmm wrote: post #194

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You should set a standard you can live with. If you're boycotting one company for something that you tolerate dozens of other companies doing, you should probably reconsider.

Why?

Because it makes your boycott seem entirely arbitrary, and that's likely to make it ineffective.

Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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Post by zem »

lmm wrote: post #198
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #196

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Why?

Because it makes your boycott seem entirely arbitrary, and that's likely to make it ineffective.

the effect is that they, and hopefully their friends and family who come to them for advice, don't buy lenovo's products. that's independent of what else they happen to be boycotting.

Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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Post by foerbert »

tailspin2019 wrote: post #37
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #31

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What ethical issue do you see? What is there to responsibly disclose? Software vendors do this on purpose; they don't need notification.

> Software vendors do this on purpose; they don't need notification. I must admit I didn't put much thought into my comment on ethics but I guess what I had in mind is perhaps a scenario where the behaviour is not actually intentional, and the vendor should at least be properly informed that there may be leakage (to them) of private data as opposed to just jumping straight to blogging about it. So rather than "respon…

I don't understand why that would be important.

The only value in responsible disclosure is protection of users. If you figure out there's a way to harm a boatload of people, it's nice to do what you can to ensure it can't happen before telling everybody how. It makes sense. But there's a very good reason it comes with a not-too-distant deadline before you give up on it.

But this? We're talking about finding ways that people are being actively harmed. How does "responsible disclosure" come into play here?

The only thing it would seem to do is to protect companies and their bad decisions. That's not the point. At best they've screwed up, and at worst they're actively malicious. How do users not deserve to know that they are being harmed as soon as possible? How do potential users not deserve to know that they will be harmed by using the product, and that the company is either doing a poor job of protecting them or actively trying to exploit them?

There's no reason to try to attach any ideas of "responsible disclosure" here unless you're explicitly trying to protect the vendor.

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