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Hegel Today
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#22Seeing people getting excited about hegel is like seeing a kid learning physics and getting excited about newton's laws. Surely, it's a step forward to one's individual knowledge, it is a stepping stone, but the human intelect has gone beyond that and there are bigger problems to be solved.
So, when adressing an individual, props for discovering a great philosopher. When adressig a community of people/philosophers going back to hegel though... ouch... that's a regression...
My fear (for lack of a better word) is that people now portray hegel as something progressive. Whereas it should be more of those journeys we do as devs, where we take a closer look at some of the basic low level tools we use (eg read the docs of a language, or linux, or bash), learn them more in depth and then go back to doing more advanced stuff using that knowledge.
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#24Seeing people getting excited about hegel is like seeing a kid learning physics and getting excited about newton's laws. Surely, it's a step forward to one's individual knowledge, it is a stepping stone, but the human intelect has gone beyond that and there are bigger problems to be solved. So, when adressing an individual, props for discovering a great philosopher. When adressig a community of people/philosophers go…
I'm not a philosopher by any means but I do believe that philosophy is actually the history of philosophy (or a very close approximation of that), and for that reason Hegel or Thomas Aquinas or Epicurus are as contemporary now when it comes to philosophy as they were when they were alive.
Yes, there are ups and downs in their reception (for example the philosophy of Thomas Aquinas has had a long hiatus from public perception in the 1700s and the 1800s) but that only happened because of our different way to read/interpret the history of philosophy hence philosophy itself (the materialists in France and the empiricists in Britain weren't that fond of Aquinas).
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#25Ah yes, the man who believed that the human struggle was a deterministic process of synthesis crashing into antithesis over and over again, with each new generation overturning the prior and then regressing back a bit, building from small tribes to modern civilization. A process of continual improvement that, according to Hegel, can be logically derived from first principles so that the arc of civilization just happens to culminate in the greatest accomplishment of reason understanding itself: the reformed Prussian state of 1807.
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#26For those new to Hegel, The Accessible Hegel by philosopher Michael Allen Fox is a great nutshell introduction book. As a software engineer, I was surprised to see how some of Hegel's ideas describe dynamics I've observed in my career. His dialectical process resembles how software systems evolve over time, and his "Spirit" reminds me of the ferment of ideas and collaboration on the Internet. The beauty of Hegel's ri…
Reminds me of the Foucault quote
"Truly to escape Hegel involves an exact appreciation of the price we have to pay to detach ourselves from him. It assumes that we are aware of the extent to which Hegel, insidiously perhaps, is close to us; it implies a knowledge, in that which permits us to think against Hegel, of that which remains Hegelian. We have to determine the extent to which our anti-Hegelianism is possibly one of his tricks directed against us, at the end of which he stands, motionless, waiting for us"
A another engineer / not-trained philosopher I was also surprised how intuitive Hegel's ideas were when I started to read philosophy on my own, having had the idea in my head that he's not understandable at all. (Of course that's not to say he isn't actually difficult at a higher level that probably went over my head)
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#27Standard Hegel joke, last seen from Nicholas Gruen on twitter: a man broke into my car which had two volumes of Hegel on the back seat, now I have four volumes.
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#28Ah yes, the man who believed that the human struggle was a deterministic process of synthesis crashing into antithesis over and over again, with each new generation overturning the prior and then regressing back a bit, building from small tribes to modern civilization. A process of continual improvement that, according to Hegel, can be logically derived from first principles so that the arc of civilization just happe…
Yes, utterly ridiculous - truly the Fukuyama of the reformed Prussian state of 1807!
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#29Seeing people getting excited about hegel is like seeing a kid learning physics and getting excited about newton's laws. Surely, it's a step forward to one's individual knowledge, it is a stepping stone, but the human intelect has gone beyond that and there are bigger problems to be solved. So, when adressing an individual, props for discovering a great philosopher. When adressig a community of people/philosophers go…
Who or what superseded Hegel then?
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#30Seeing people getting excited about hegel is like seeing a kid learning physics and getting excited about newton's laws. Surely, it's a step forward to one's individual knowledge, it is a stepping stone, but the human intelect has gone beyond that and there are bigger problems to be solved. So, when adressing an individual, props for discovering a great philosopher. When adressig a community of people/philosophers go…
Interesting perspective, but Slavoj Žižek is one of the most influential contemporary philosophers and also a Hegelian.