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This isn't a clickbaitey video. This is styropyro, one of the most knowledgeable YouTubers when it comes to lasers and the related engineering. He's not just some dude who hooks up lasers to a wall outlet. He knows very well what he's doing. He always makes a point about proper laser safety. Another one is Photonicinduction, an electrical engineer that plays with insane voltages in his attic basically. I'd never want…
Styropyro is one of the most universally reviled science YouTube channels among practicing scientists. Beyond doing really dumb shit, he runs an absolute cesspool of a discord server overrun with 14 year olds who build very dangerous laser contraptions, and then buy the cheapest, shittiest laser safety goggles, which are completely ineffective. He makes doing dangerous things in a completely unprepared way look cool.
I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]
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Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]
#72I wonder, how many people will give themselves RF burns or permanent laser damage to their eyesight trying to replicate stuff they see in these click-baity videos? YouTube is full of content that tries to give the impression of a random, edgy, not-quite-knowing-what-they're-doing guy just messing around with stuff in their parent's garage, woefully ignoring all safety concerns on camera. I'm sure many of their viewer…
Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]
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> It can be difficult to know if you’re capable of doing something safely Not really. Opening up electronics, fiddling with them, and then plugging them in, is pretty typically considered dangerous. It's such a ridiculous argument to say we should be censoring this stuff because it's dangerous to the untrained. Should we censor professional cooking videos where they chop food really fast with sharp knives? Someone co…
I would rather see my kid risk a burn taking lasers and motors apart, versus her risking depression and body dysmorphic disorder from passively following toxic video game streamers and Instagram influencers. The amount of gatekeeping-cum-concern trolling in the tech community is as abundant as it is timeless. I hope more of the next generation of young scientists get their start from nilered, photonicinduction, styro…
Where I get concerned is when people are playing with tech can a easily move from “skin burn that heals in a week” to “partial / complete loss of sight in one eye” with little obvious indication that you’ve crossed that boundary.
Lasers in particular can be very nasty in this space. An simple 1mW green laser will look basically identical to a 1mW IR laser. But the IR laser has a real risk of causing partial sight loss because it not visible, so you don’t blink or look away when it shone in your eyes. Instead the first indication of a problem will either be pain or partial loss of sight, at which point the damage is done and can’t be repaired.
To further complicate things damage to eye can also depend on if the laser is pulsing or running continuously. So laser that seems “safe” when operated continuously can become extremely dangerous when pulsed.
Finally if you’ve got a laser that burn your skin. Then it’ll annihilate your eyes in a instant. The optics in your eyes have a focal magnification of about 100,000x so 1mW/cm2 becomes 100W/cm2 once it hits your retina. Which itself is not the most robust organ in the body.
In short things like lasers create a difficult to control hazard that pretty much targets on of the most sensitive, important and difficult to repair parts of the body, the eyes. People live perfectly normal lives missing fingers and toes, with 3rd degree burns and horrific scars. But permanent sight loss is a totally different ball game, it’s high impact, life long, and we have pretty much no technology that can reverse it.
So please, encourage your children to mess around with technology, take stuff apart. Burn fingers, break bones and slice up hands. But for the love of god, protect them permanent sight or hearing loss. Let them lose that stuff at music festivals or too old age. And doing that mean making sure they really understand how dangerous lasers can be, and how something a simple as taking your goggles of at the wrong moment can have huge life altering ramifications, before they start playing within anything more powerful than a DVD player.
Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]
#74I wonder, how many people will give themselves RF burns or permanent laser damage to their eyesight trying to replicate stuff they see in these click-baity videos? YouTube is full of content that tries to give the impression of a random, edgy, not-quite-knowing-what-they're-doing guy just messing around with stuff in their parent's garage, woefully ignoring all safety concerns on camera. I'm sure many of their viewer…
Don't understand how something like this can stand while other videos are pulled and the creators banned for life for simply expressing a politically incorrect opinion. Where is that editorial control when its really needed?
Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn't a clickbaitey video. This is styropyro, one of the most knowledgeable YouTubers when it comes to lasers and the related engineering. He's not just some dude who hooks up lasers to a wall outlet. He knows very well what he's doing. He always makes a point about proper laser safety. Another one is Photonicinduction, an electrical engineer that plays with insane voltages in his attic basically. I'd never want…
The person you are replying to isn’t at all suggesting that this person isn’t very skilled. Obviously they are. The issue is, while many of us pick up on the shtick, there are many in the general YouTube audience who might not understand this. I don’t think it should be censored either, I just think these people should take some time to talk about the safety precautions they use. Because some people who watch these s…
If it helps people get off the couch is it really that bad? I want my kid to grow up too, but protecting him from all harmful information is just going to turn him into a potato or worse.
Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]
#76The obvious way to both utilize the unique properties of lasers, and solve the diffusion problem, would be operating this at a larger distance. What he has can probably cook the steak from a hundred meters away.
What he doesn't have is a hundred-meter room, and operating the laser array outdoors would be criminally negligent. Of course, plenty of mirrors arranged just right could give the same effect with limited space, and also allow him to cook the steak from all directions at once. Clearly there are opportunities here.
Sometimes, it doesn't even take money, just knowing someone who knows someone...
Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]
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The person you are replying to isn’t at all suggesting that this person isn’t very skilled. Obviously they are. The issue is, while many of us pick up on the shtick, there are many in the general YouTube audience who might not understand this. I don’t think it should be censored either, I just think these people should take some time to talk about the safety precautions they use. Because some people who watch these s…
He does talk about how fast his eyes would burn if exposed to the laser. If it helps people get off the couch is it really that bad? I want my kid to grow up too, but protecting him from all harmful information is just going to turn him into a potato or worse.
I am aware that he did give some information about the dangers during the video, but they were mostly presented in a "look how dangerous I am!" style, rather than a "this is dangerous but because of precautions [x, y] and understanding [z], this is not actually putting anyone at harm"
Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]
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I think he could have done better and worked more warnings into his delivery as he went. Simply saying something dangerous isn’t enough. People need to understand _why_ it’s dangerous, or they’re likely to ignore the warnings. When he was messing around with the capacitors (the really dangerous bit in a microwave). It would have been easy to work in a sentence about how they have a high voltage, and touching them cou…
These are all great points, for someone putting out a single video. When an entire channel covers a single subject matter with the same precautions etc each time, it's easier to just create dedicated videos to that information, otherwise each video you release comes with a 30 minute safety training section. Nile Red is another channel who does a lot of things that are potentially dangerous, and in editing will gloss…
The reality of YouTube is people send links to individual videos, much like this going on HN. People are going to watch a one off (such as myself right now) and not scan a channel for a meta-level warning video.
Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]
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I think you're making a lot of assumptions about someone based off of one video. If you've been a styropyro fan for a while, you'd know how serious he takes safety. He has whole videos about proper safety glasses and whatnot, and even destroys some to demonstrate that not all glasses are safe or even made correctly. Almost every video of his mentions "if these lasers were on for even a second and I'm not wearing glas…
I’ll go watch more of his videos then. To be clear I really enjoyed the video, and love videos like this, and want to see more. They’re incredibly educational, and do a fantastic job of lifting the curtain on the modern miracles of science we take for granted everyday, and demonstrating that normal people can understand them. With luck it’ll encourage more people to pick up science and engineering, and build new and…
Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]
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the “wrong” people in this case are children, and the information is likely to cause injury…
That's a parental supervision problem, not a reason to censor information on youtube.
Can you please let me know:
How many kids do you have? Their ages? What activities they do? Your level of participation?