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Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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> we can also come up with scenarios that involve real harms. […] I personally use Google Analytics to track visitors to my website.

This was a well-written fun read, and I also both care about privacy a lot and have also used Google Analytics on a site too, but at the same time I’m a little bit floored how quickly his own use of GA was assumed benign while Wacom’s was assumed malicious. (Using GA is handing tracking data to Google, after all.) I don’t think the “it’s just a mouse” is a valid justification for this double standard. My browser is “just a viewer”; I’m getting tracked before I click on anything on your page. If we’re going to care about privacy deeply, I think we need to be a little more rigorous together.

This makes me wonder something as a developer - it’s not just tempting to have analytics and telemetry, it’s very, very valuable data if you care about the customer experience. And for companies that don’t do anything with this data other than improve the customer experience and fix crashes, this data is also valuable to the customers and users. So the big question here for developers is how can we collect usage data safely without compromising privacy? What data is safe to track, and what data is not safe to track? Personally I assume there are many kinds of seemingly innocuous data that could be misused. Even tracking mouse location can reveal things to an adversary. What can we do as developers to prevent customer experience from becoming adversarial? Is the only answer to not send any data? Or is there a technical way to establish and maintain trust between users and apps?

Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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I have depressingly started to believe (accept?) that everything I use tracks the name of everything else that I use. Agreeing with the author’s conclusion: >“This isn’t the dataset that’s going to complete the embrace of full, totalitarian surveillance capitalism. Nonetheless, it’s still deeply obnoxious. A device that is essentially a mouse has no legitimate reasons to make HTTP requests of any sort.” Also, I alway…

Android and iOS phones definitely track EVERY app usage down to the millisecond - and they have since pretty much the beginning...

Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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I never thought I would want a "walled garden" on my desktop, but these shit software stacks that companies are integrating into their products are forcing me to want to fight back to lock down my machine. I would love a simple utility that could not only neatly encapsulate and display the data being sent from my machine out on the network but also allow me to merely check a box to block that traffic. A smart initial…

If I am not mistaken, there was, back in the day, a small program called Proxomitron that did this.

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post #21

> we can also come up with scenarios that involve real harms. […] I personally use Google Analytics to track visitors to my website. This was a well-written fun read, and I also both care about privacy a lot and have also used Google Analytics on a site too, but at the same time I’m a little bit floored how quickly his own use of GA was assumed benign while Wacom’s was assumed malicious. (Using GA is handing tracking…

I think one way is to show the actual data being sent, rather than a black box with a sign “trust us, send us your telemetry”

Some companies allow you to see what they are going to sent. It still takes trust, but it goes a long way.

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This was a wonderful read I think when I was younger I’d assumed the sheer number of technical users out there would mean it would be hard for companies to get away with things like this but these days I realize this sort of analysis and public exposition is actually rare and the number of skilled developers investing time in this is slim Perhaps collectively as a community we can create public bug and privacy bounti…

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Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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I never thought I would want a "walled garden" on my desktop, but these shit software stacks that companies are integrating into their products are forcing me to want to fight back to lock down my machine. I would love a simple utility that could not only neatly encapsulate and display the data being sent from my machine out on the network but also allow me to merely check a box to block that traffic. A smart initial…

> I would love a simple utility that could not only neatly encapsulate and display the data being sent from my machine out on the network but also allow me to merely check a box to block that traffic. Does Little Snitch not meet your needs there? I believe even with the challenges caused by Apple's unfortunate elimination of kernel extensions it's still powerful and effective. The GUI is solid and I've had solid succ…

It's worth mentioning that an excellent FOSS alternative is LuLu -- https://objective-see.com/products/lulu.html or https://github.com/objective-see/LuLu [last commit a week ago!]

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For OS X: Little Snitch. For Linux: Open Snitch. The other option: Offline first, air-gapped. There is no way that I run a computer without host-based application firewall.

simplewall for Windows. Or a separate hardware firewall device given how much trust microsoft products deserve.

Re: Wacom drawing tablets track the name of every application that you open

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post #28

For OS X: Little Snitch. For Linux: Open Snitch. The other option: Offline first, air-gapped. There is no way that I run a computer without host-based application firewall.

> For OS X: Little Snitch

And for open-source (GPL3) macOS solution - LuLu. Switched form Little Snitch about a year ago with no issues.

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