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Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by redisman »

mlac wrote: post #474
mlac wrote: post #472

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will use VR when I can put on my headset, anywhere, and be transported to my "desk". I want to be able to take documents and move them around in VR, read them, put them on my "table", and then have apps that appear as monitors. So I can move and pull up email in front of me, "grab" an attachment, and "put" it into another email that I will compose. And have emails look like a stack of papers that you could actually…

Not to mention the separation it would give you working from home / or wherever. You could disengage from your whole work environment by taking off your headset, and have a very minimal tech setup outside that space. It would be a clean transition from work and home. You couldn't text with your phone, have TV in the background, and be in a room with someone at the same time. It would be fully engaged in tech, or not.…

After seeing some of the programming environments people have posted here in the last few months I’m becoming more convinced. I’d love to test out a VR work environment where I can sit on a fairly realistic mountain top or in a quiet forest. Still waiting for the cheap and economic version but I’m sure that’s coming eventually.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by pmlnr »

Closi wrote: post #351
emilsedgh wrote: post #305

Metaverse is not bullshit. It's a sign of desperation. Facebook has _nothing_ for the future. * Blue app is already on it's death bed. * Instagram is already seeing a massive decline in quality and engagement as its getting close to the end of its lifecycle. * They managed to survive Snapchat, but I think that made them think Instagram is too big to fail. Thus, they didn't go after TikTok. It was a mistake. * What's…

> I personally think they should've acquired TikTok last year when TikTok was looking to be acquired by Microsoft. They probably would've extended their survival for another 10-ish years (lifecycle of a social media) Eh, IMO I don't think that would have worked - I suspect it would have raised too much anti-trust attention and not have been allowed. The bigger picture is that in the UK at least, 'Meta' owns most comm…

> 'Meta' owns most communication channels that I use to communicate with my friends

Bring them back to email, because there are still many small email providers in the UK. See https://delta.chat/en/ for email as IM.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by charcircuit »

Banana699 wrote: post #481
laumars wrote: post #143

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The point the OP is making is VR isn’t a domain where you test drive practical family cars. Sure you have racing games but how many people can afford, let alone justify, high ended performance cars for their family? And how many racing games do you see where people are driving boring (relatively speaking) family cars? The point about VR games are that they’re an unrealistic escape. If you wanted a 1:1 with actual rea…

>If you wanted a 1:1 with actual reality then you wouldn’t need Virtual Reality in the first place. What? Why? A 1:1 with reality that is cheap and convenient enough to be an equivalent to modern smartphones would be an honest to god revolution. Imagine face-to-face social media where a group of 20 strangers from all over the world and across 13 different socio-culutral groups are sitting down drinking virtual beer (…

Why limit yourself to the real world though. Having 20 people with anime avatars in a fantasy fantasy world sounds much better.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by MisterTea »

justapassenger wrote: post #444
dandotway wrote: post #71

Text is mightier than the Metaverse. Kids can do video calls with their smartphones but prefer texting. We could discuss Hacker News stories with video chat but we prefer text. News and politics junkies prefer reading text tweets on Twitter to watching talking news anchors. Once upon a time Amazon was a company that only sold books. Dried ink on dead trees. And in the early internet age this book seller outperformed…

And that’s why text based games dominated the world and no one is playing 3D games?

How did you conflate communication between people with entertainment?

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by machiaweliczny »

ikr678 wrote: post #198
didibus wrote: post #119

I think the only BS is the way we.all talk about this stuff, same way the cloud is all hyped up. AR and VR are great tech, when it gets good enough that it's a simple comfortable accessory to wear, and it incurs no strain on your eyes, it'll definitely find many uses. And for sure we'll pursue the tech for better full body tracking, walking in-place, simulated touch, and all that, and if all that one day works simila…

The tech quality developing is all well and good, but I dont see in these discussions much consideration to how much space you need clear for immersive VR. If Facebook want this to scale for private use, they need to solve for housing first. I've played a few VR games at friends places, and unless they had the luxury of a spare room for it it's a pain in the ass to create space. I dont see this taking off beyond the…

They can also solve brain-conputer interface instead. Probably more profitable as well.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by axby »

Can someone explain why NFTs have anything to do with the metaverse? I heard about browsers easily supporting cryptocurrencies as an important step to it, that kind of makes sense. But do any average people buy NFTs for any reason besides being tricked into it as an (extremely dubious would be putting it politely) "investment"?

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by Oddskar »

dustingetz wrote: post #355
emilsedgh wrote: post #305

Metaverse is not bullshit. It's a sign of desperation. Facebook has _nothing_ for the future. * Blue app is already on it's death bed. * Instagram is already seeing a massive decline in quality and engagement as its getting close to the end of its lifecycle. * They managed to survive Snapchat, but I think that made them think Instagram is too big to fail. Thus, they didn't go after TikTok. It was a mistake. * What's…

Facebook also has nothing better to spend the cash on – $60bn cash reserves in 2020 and revs are $120bn/yr growing at 30% y/y, what do you even do with that?

I think there's an obvious answer to that question: don't focus so much on profit and ensure that the net benefit of your product for humanity is greater than it currently is.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by beeboop »

Tangokat wrote: post #406

The internet was text. Then came pictures. Then came video. Then came live streaming. Is it really so far fetched to think that the next phase is 3d? It makes sense to me. I don't think we have any idea how it's going to turn out though. Certainly the 30+ people here do not understand why teens buy Fortnite hats or have fun in Roblox. The lines between the "real" world and the digital world are blurring and will cont…

The difference is that 3D requires new, specialized hardware and a higher level of physical dexterity. All the previous iterations all work fine on a monitor.
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