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Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by arisAlexis »

Jasper_ wrote: post #318
arisAlexis wrote: post #308

This is a huge ignorant rant and expresses the anger of the unknown that is coming and anger for missing out. For every new technology there are always articles condemning them. People are resistent to change and that has been proven.

Yeah, not sure what the author is talking about. Once he tries the Segway, he'll know it's the future of transportation. Anything else is FOMO FUD.

How many world thought leaders said the segway is the future of transportation? None. How many for metaverse? Quite a few.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by greggh »

shafyy wrote: post #17

As the article says, it doesn't make sense to have a virtual world that replicates the real world where there is only one "spacetime" entity, so to speak. The author is right, the metaverse is already here and it's called the internet. I disagree with the author that I can see a lot of value in improved social interactions and virtual workspaces in VR once the technology gets there. You can already see glimpses of it…

Depending on your needs, the technology is already there. I already do most of my work in VR with my partner, while he is also in VR from his house about 2 miles away.

We need a few desktop screens up for information, a big whiteboard, and the ability to see each others screens. With Immersed and Horizon Workrooms we get all of that already. Before workrooms was really stable we were using Immersed and keeping Mural (white boarding) up on one of our desktops together.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by pennaMan »

Oddskar wrote: post #341
wruza wrote: post #171

This thread feels like 1860's consilium on what future will look like 500 years later. The shape of the metaverse will be formed by a new generation, not by older guys (and not by fortnite addicts who play by the rules of the former) who know nothing better than drive a fancy “car” on the “road”, as if roads or a concept of physical movement or the euclidean rule would still be there for common use and not for museum…

I read this three times and I'm still not sure what your point is.

The point is that this technology forum is in the sad state of being consistently dismissive of novel technology.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by ARandomerDude »

capableweb wrote: post #360
hansel_der wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not to dispute your point, but netflix is a library

Uh, no? A library lends out books/media to people at no cost. How is Netflix, a publicly traded for-profit company, anything like a non-profit, usually government-owned library?

The library costs you money too, in the form of taxes. At least Netflix only charges its actual users. I'm forced to pay for the two public libraries in my town even though I've never been in them.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by greggh »

rklaehn wrote: post #35

I think people should not underestimate this. The presentation is cringeworthy, but VR is very attractive for teenagers and preteens. I know this from personal experience with my kids. Same with the concept of NFTs. Using real money to pay for an in game asset like a fortnite skin is completely natural to them.

I'm 45 and already spend more than half of my day in VR. My morning workout is done in VR, then I move on to guided meditation session, before finally starting work in Immersed.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by Noos »

...replace metaverse with Bitcoin.

For all the hate HN has for the latter, it still exists, and defies its constantly predicted death. At this point if HN says something is bullshit its actually time to start looking at it critically because apparently bullshit survives much longer than what HN actually likes, lol RSS for example.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by gfodor »

AlexandrB wrote: post #54
gfodor wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn’t read my article, or you did, and you aren’t understanding anything I wrote. You do have freedom of form, you are just limited in the forms you can change to. You exercise it every time you get a haircut. The question is about what changes if there are a variety of contexts where it is fair to assume most or all participants have photonic override. You are missing the point: this isn’t about goggles. Take a…

So, this idea of avatarism seems to completely ignore the fact that access to avatars (or technologies that allow "photonic override") will be gatekept by profit-maximizing entities like Apple or Facebook. To me it sounds like just another form of conspicuous consumption where the rich will show off their opulence by buying artisanal avatars (on the blockchain, no doubt) and lording them over the plebs. To see this i…

No, avatarism has nothing to do with Facebook. I helped start the Mozilla Hubs project to help ensure Facebook doesn’t own this.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by gfodor »

m_mueller wrote: post #40
gfodor wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn’t read my article, or you did, and you aren’t understanding anything I wrote. You do have freedom of form, you are just limited in the forms you can change to. You exercise it every time you get a haircut. The question is about what changes if there are a variety of contexts where it is fair to assume most or all participants have photonic override. You are missing the point: this isn’t about goggles. Take a…

I recommend watching Black Mirror episose 'White Christmas'. You decide if this is future worth living in.

You and I don’t get to choose anything. Don’t shoot the messenger.
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