What we are seeing in human society is a psychological attack. Murder and suicide rates are skyrocketing. Funny how the media says we don't know why. Maybe it has to do with the lack of social supports. When inflation and housing prices are at an all time high, we are still quarantining kids for 10+ days from school and expecting parents to have unlimited paid family leave. Kids are expected to sit inside the whole t…
Honey bees increase social distancing when facing ectoparasite
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
It has been part of the literature since the early 1980s: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=social+distanc... It just wasn't a widely-known term because we didn't have much need for it.
Well, we did have a need for it but we just chose to ignore that need. Something like 30,000 people died every year from the regular flu in the USA alone, before pandemic. Social distancing (and masks) would bring that number to close to 0. So if we're going by metrics of, we'd like to save 30,000 people every year, we absolutely had a need for social distancing all this time. But I get it, our society has a large to…
Flu and pneumonia vaccines were also available and uptake was nowhere near 100% (my doctor's office is always plastered with posters about "Get your flu shot" etc, but most people don't go out of their way to get it).
For instance a friend once told me that they always get the flu when getting the flu vaccine (??! obviously nonsense, but they sincerely believed it) so would not get it anymore.
Social distancing when a vaccine is available just doesn't make sense. We have to take the downsides of social distancing into account as well.
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#33The term "social distancing" was not a thing until the CoVid-19 pandemic, in my experience. It could be a sign of the times so the term is used because it is now popularly understood. The Intro notes that "This hypothesis has been recently confirmed in the ant Lasius niger infected with the fungal pathogen Metarhizium brunneum, which induced behavioral changes ..." So it looks like this behaviour might be selected fo…
If find the term social distancing misleading, it's not about social but physical distance.
This is why limiting the frequency of social interactions, such as by working from home instead of traveling to the office, it also part of social distancing. These honey bees exhibited this form of behaviour modification through reduced numbers of interactions between individuals in the foraging and nursing groups.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, we did have a need for it but we just chose to ignore that need. Something like 30,000 people died every year from the regular flu in the USA alone, before pandemic. Social distancing (and masks) would bring that number to close to 0. So if we're going by metrics of, we'd like to save 30,000 people every year, we absolutely had a need for social distancing all this time. But I get it, our society has a large to…
You're forgetting about the need for closeness and connection. Suicide rates among youth are at an all-time high. Crime and murder rates have gone up tremendously since the beginning of the pandemic. Saving 30,000 from the flu sounds great, but there are serious impacts from the extreme mask mandates and social distancing and the ones I mentioned are just what are immediately obvious. I imagine when you see the educa…
Suicide rates were rising pre-pandemic as well (IMO, due to social media and the Internet). Suicides overall declined in 2020 in the USA, for instance, so social distancing didn't have the feared effects. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/health/coronavirus-suicid...
However I agree broadly that the downsides of social distancing are real and unsustainable for more than a short time like a year at most. If we faced a 5 year vaccine development timeline for instance I don't think it would be acceptable to keep people from socializing that long.
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#35What we are seeing in human society is a psychological attack. Murder and suicide rates are skyrocketing. Funny how the media says we don't know why. Maybe it has to do with the lack of social supports. When inflation and housing prices are at an all time high, we are still quarantining kids for 10+ days from school and expecting parents to have unlimited paid family leave. Kids are expected to sit inside the whole t…
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#36so the honeycomb was mostly empty ? if there are 6 empty cells around each full cell, that would be the minimum extra distancing they could do
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
If find the term social distancing misleading, it's not about social but physical distance.
Social distancing is about both increasing physical distance between individuals when they interact, and also about reducing the number of social interactions. You and I may never interact and the physical distance between us might be so great it's irrelevant, but if we have a friend in common that visits both our houses frequently that creates a bridge between us the virus can cross. This is why limiting the frequen…
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, we did have a need for it but we just chose to ignore that need. Something like 30,000 people died every year from the regular flu in the USA alone, before pandemic. Social distancing (and masks) would bring that number to close to 0. So if we're going by metrics of, we'd like to save 30,000 people every year, we absolutely had a need for social distancing all this time. But I get it, our society has a large to…
You're forgetting about the need for closeness and connection. Suicide rates among youth are at an all-time high. Crime and murder rates have gone up tremendously since the beginning of the pandemic. Saving 30,000 from the flu sounds great, but there are serious impacts from the extreme mask mandates and social distancing and the ones I mentioned are just what are immediately obvious. I imagine when you see the educa…
No they aren't. Where are you getting your stats from?
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#40What we are seeing in human society is a psychological attack. Murder and suicide rates are skyrocketing. Funny how the media says we don't know why. Maybe it has to do with the lack of social supports. When inflation and housing prices are at an all time high, we are still quarantining kids for 10+ days from school and expecting parents to have unlimited paid family leave. Kids are expected to sit inside the whole t…
"Murder rates are skyrocketing" Do you have any source to support that?