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The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet

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Re: The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet

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Post by hooby »

I think what is sorely missing from the entire debate, is a clear definition of what a metaverse actually is.

This article here seems to believe that the metaverse is nothing but "internet VR". The talk by Carmack for the most part equates the metaverse with MMVR - massively multiuser virtual reality.

But according to the explanation that Raph Koster (the mind behing metaplace - the only prior attempt at ever building a metaverse) recently posted at the Playable Worlds homepage, what Facebook is trying to do, is building a mirror world - which is just one world out of many in a multiverse, which in itself is just one small part of the metaverse...

All that enthusiastic talk about "it's the future!" isn't helping either - if anything that muddies the waters even more.

Right now, we are on the best track of turning "metaverse" into a completely meaningless marketing buzzword. Everyone uses the term, behaving as if it was totally clear and obvious what it meant - but nobody seems to be able to actually produce a clear and to the point explanation or definition.

What actually is the metaverse?

Re: The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet

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Post by 74d-fe6-2c6 »

q4Zar wrote: post #10

I'm a software developer and i pass literraly 80% of my time working to make my family survive to this world, and honestly the only thing that i have in mind it's to flippin go in the forest for a walk, i don't understand the thing of wanting so much to be isolated and wear a fucking VR mask, this world is fucked up !

How about this:

- you are working

- you have a family

- you have access to a forest

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Whether or not more and more people will be unemployed or not due to advances in technology and shifts in society is probably up to debate. I personally think that we'll see more unemployment with uneducated folks. And even if they work it will be paid badly, unstable due to being easily replaceable and rather stressful and dull.

Same for having a family. Finding a spouse will be difficult for the disposable and getting children risky. So, also not an option for many.

And access to a forest - as in a place with nature where you can walk for half an hour without meeting anyone. Good luck with that living in the middle of some ghetto without public or individual transportation options.

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Those products will be the new Opium for the People. The new couch with chips in front of the TV. A sedation and escapism.

Re: The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet

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Post by ricardonunez »

8eye wrote: post #42
xwdv wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are worse things incredibly rich people could do to have fun. Why not just build a metaverse?

right? or why can’t he just build some space stuff like the rest of the billionaires lol

We commented the same thing at the same time lol

No wonder Buffett was doing new deals all the time, probably his way of coping with it.

Re: The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet

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Post by Kiro »

q4Zar wrote: post #10

I'm a software developer and i pass literraly 80% of my time working to make my family survive to this world, and honestly the only thing that i have in mind it's to flippin go in the forest for a walk, i don't understand the thing of wanting so much to be isolated and wear a fucking VR mask, this world is fucked up !

And I just want to be fully wired in 24/7. I couldn't care less about walking in some forest. We're all different.

Re: The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet

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Post by neither_color »

xwdv wrote: post #11
mettamage wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having watched Zuckerberg’s keynote, I get the feeling he wants to feel excited again by building something new. Maintenance is a bit thankless and boring. That’s the vibe that I got.

There are worse things incredibly rich people could do to have fun. Why not just build a metaverse?

There is another billionaire building a giant dorm complex with windowless rooms, if there's another deadly variant wave those kids will need the metaverse to see the sun.

Re: The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet

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Post by Kiro »

8eye wrote: post #39
q4Zar wrote: post #10

I'm a software developer and i pass literraly 80% of my time working to make my family survive to this world, and honestly the only thing that i have in mind it's to flippin go in the forest for a walk, i don't understand the thing of wanting so much to be isolated and wear a fucking VR mask, this world is fucked up !

it’s strange, i think it’s because the fact the we work with computers all day, to others it’s play time because it doesn’t remind them of fixing bugs or working with spreadsheets all day

Both work and play time are in front of a computer for me. I don't get any association problems.

Re: The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet

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Post by throwawaycuriou »

ryanmercer wrote: post #44
EmilioMartinez wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people don't want that though, and that is why VR was a bust (compared to last century's dreams I mean).

VR has been a bust because decent VR requires a heavy thing attached to your head, basically an empty room in your house, and a computer that (at least pre-covid auto prices) cost more than many of the cars on the road in the United States. My friend has had a vive for years, he has an entire room dedicated to it so you can actually walk around. Its being driven by a several thousand dollar computer and makes the roo…

VR Optician now accepts an ASX for astigmatism correction. I don't think it adds to the base $69 USD cost. Prism corrections for $50 more.

Re: The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet

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Post by 0xdeadb00f »

rambambram wrote: post #20

I'm willing to take this further: The 'cloud' was already there, it used to be called the 'internet'.

I don't think that's a very hot take around here. At least I don't think so. But here's what I have to say;

"Serverless" is already here, it's called "servers".

Re: The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet

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Post by Kiro »

q4Zar wrote: post #10

I'm a software developer and i pass literraly 80% of my time working to make my family survive to this world, and honestly the only thing that i have in mind it's to flippin go in the forest for a walk, i don't understand the thing of wanting so much to be isolated and wear a fucking VR mask, this world is fucked up !

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's "fucked up". Do you think that about all things not aligned with your personal and subjective preferences?
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