I thought the juxtaposition between the cringey, overproduced keynote and Carmack’s talk was amazing. Just a guy in front of some monitors telling you the whole thing you just watched was nonsense. It was beautiful.
Having watched Zuckerberg’s keynote, I get the feeling he wants to feel excited again by building something new. Maintenance is a bit thankless and boring. That’s the vibe that I got.
The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet
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#12How do we describe the "meta" phenomnom anymore, we need a new word for "meta" and I've been struggling but can't figure it out. What replaces the word "meta" if someone takes it, "gist"!?
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#13Depends on who gives the smart glasses it's 'killer app' and the ecosystem it needs to take off and who ever executes that properly, will win. The games are going to come first.
Probably will come from either Meta, Apple, Google or Microsoft. Most likely from Meta with the support of the Web and PWA's first.
> In the meantime, all we can do is make sure that Facebook’s cut of VR social networks stays as small as possible.
I don't see anything out there right now to counter what Meta is about to do, unless Mastodon or something else is planning to persuade the masses to not make money on the metaverse and stay on the fediverse.
Either way, this decade is going to introduce the smart glasses and it will come from Big Tech again as it did with smartwatches. Sorry.
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#14How do we describe the "meta" phenomnom anymore, we need a new word for "meta" and I've been struggling but can't figure it out. What replaces the word "meta" if someone takes it, "gist"!?
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#15All we really need to collectively build up a metaverse is the HTML of VR, where experiences can be linked together. Web browsers can already launch 3D experiences in VR its just clunky and I switch it off because ads on some sites start VR for some reason. We already have quite a few 2D into VR desktops too and they work. Seamless transition and placement appears to be a bit lacking but it doesn't feel all that far…
For example with the web the interoperability is really between the browser and websites rather than between websites. Although a few do interoperate. This is more similar to how Roblox or Steam works where one program lets you join lots of different games and maintains some common state than common ideas of interoperability in the metaverse.
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#16I thought the juxtaposition between the cringey, overproduced keynote and Carmack’s talk was amazing. Just a guy in front of some monitors telling you the whole thing you just watched was nonsense. It was beautiful.
I know, right! I just love how Carmack delivered the line: "... But Mark Zuckerberg decided it's time to build the metaverse..." Edit: Here's Carmack's keynote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnSUk0je6oo
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#17Re: The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet
#18> In the end, the metaverse will be the internet, but mostly experienced through the medium of VR/AR. Depends on who gives the smart glasses it's 'killer app' and the ecosystem it needs to take off and who ever executes that properly, will win. The games are going to come first. Probably will come from either Meta, Apple, Google or Microsoft. Most likely from Meta with the support of the Web and PWA's first. > In the…
Watches weren't new, calculator watches were introduced almost half a century ago, the concept had a ton of time to mature. A HUD/AR capable smartglasses will be an entirely new concept that has so far failed spectacularly every time it has been tried. Not saying it won't happen, just that it'll need a lot more time to mature as a consumer product than smartwatches did -- there's a lot more to it than waiting until the technology is capable.
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#19All we really need to collectively build up a metaverse is the HTML of VR, where experiences can be linked together. Web browsers can already launch 3D experiences in VR its just clunky and I switch it off because ads on some sites start VR for some reason. We already have quite a few 2D into VR desktops too and they work. Seamless transition and placement appears to be a bit lacking but it doesn't feel all that far…
Anyway, back to what you said, I agree that seamless transition is the very big factor. IMO, "metaverse" requires seamless transition between assets not worlds. Current VR experience, even assuming a perfect browser, means that you switch between world when switching between websites. I believe that most usages would be that pages are mostly assets, not whole worlds. Kinda frames I guess. I don't think there is any specification at the moment for such a thing.
(Now I'm daydreaming of a VR RSS reader, where I move in my various news. Nope that doesn't sound like a good UX)
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#20The 'cloud' was already there, it used to be called the 'internet'.