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The metaverse is bullshit

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Re: The metaverse is bullshit

#171
This thread feels like 1860's consilium on what future will look like 500 years later. The shape of the metaverse will be formed by a new generation, not by older guys (and not by fortnite addicts who play by the rules of the former) who know nothing better than drive a fancy “car” on the “road”, as if roads or a concept of physical movement or the euclidean rule would still be there for common use and not for museums. Virtual worlds up to date, like second life, were mostly just stupid copies of “real life”, which was designed after some physical limitations, or fantasy worlds of parallel earth-likes with a limited magic.

If the only limitation of metaverse is Code and Content, and if that would be much easier to create, then in a blink of an eye it will turn into something absolutely inconceivable to mercedes benz drivers. What really is bullshit, is lack of imagination in people and a shitload of thought inertia. Personally, it feels like the article author has never ever been in the internet, confining themselves at a small circle of “social” networks bs. Those will live in an exact copy of their current environment, paying to bigcorps with their work hours to achieve “expensive” toys, to impress similar narrow-minded guys. I’ve seen second life at its peak, and this is exactly what they were doing there.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

#172
post #52

> In a September 2021 Washington Post interview, Tim Sweeney imagined the future of advertising. "A carmaker who wants to make a presence in the metaverse isn't going to run ads," he said. "They're going to drop their car into the world in real time and you'll be able to drive it around. And they're going to work with lots of content creators with different experiences to ensure their car is playable here and there,…

That’s not my concern. My main issue is that it would be pretty much impossible to recreate the dynamics of driving a car the way dedicated video game car simulators do. Who will write the code? The car manufacturer, or the platform? All you’ll end up with will be a precise 3-D model of the car and a generic driving “experience”. When you play Grand Turismo every car behaves differently because the creators took the time to customize each car. I don’t see how would this apply to a platform because the backend to support all this would probably not be there.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

#174
Right it is 'bullshit' then and unfortunately Zuckerberg is going to put his money where his mouth is and build it anyway and partnering with anyone else who hates Apple and Google's 30% taxes.

So what are you going to do about it? Keep talking about them or do something to challenge it?

They know it is bullshit and it is dystopian but they are going to build it regardless. If it is not challenged, we are going to keep talking about how they won for another decade.

Every day when Meta is talked about and their services are used, Zuckerberg keeps winning. There is no amount of fines, scandals, privacy violations or confessions that can try to stop them.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

#175

the good news is that the metaverse and the tech industry's very expensive obsession with trying to make it a reality will be a schadenfreude generator the likes of which we've never seen before The tech landscape is littered with failed attempts, but we have here two very technically successful companies, Epic and Facebook, both trying to re-imagine the internet as something different. I'm not sure I'd write them of…

Past performance is no guarantee of future results

They were successful with one thing. Now they are talking about something else.

Why shouldn't "MetaVerse" be compared to the insane optimism of AI in the 1980'ies? Something that seemed just around the corner, but never arrived.

It's like Thorium reactors: half the people think it's the next great thing, the other half thinks it will never come into production.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

#176

Text is mightier than the Metaverse. Kids can do video calls with their smartphones but prefer texting. We could discuss Hacker News stories with video chat but we prefer text. News and politics junkies prefer reading text tweets on Twitter to watching talking news anchors. Once upon a time Amazon was a company that only sold books. Dried ink on dead trees. And in the early internet age this book seller outperformed…

Kids prefer messaging because it's asynchronous, not because they prefer text.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

#179
post #52

> In a September 2021 Washington Post interview, Tim Sweeney imagined the future of advertising. "A carmaker who wants to make a presence in the metaverse isn't going to run ads," he said. "They're going to drop their car into the world in real time and you'll be able to drive it around. And they're going to work with lots of content creators with different experiences to ensure their car is playable here and there,…

what the fuck are you talking about you imbecile

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

#180
Read three quarters of the article and can’t finish it. I disagree with most things the author says. Just because something is crappy, silly, not quite technically possible right now, or all of the above, it doesn’t mean it won’t happen - in fact that’s how most of every days tech or big system starts!! (Remember how online communication was in the beginning online? Or playing tiny low resolution shockwave videos?). “The metaverse is bullshit because it already exists, and it's called the internet” - no, the internet (whose standards are still evolving btw!) is the platform, not the utility! Much like the wheels and an engine is not the car! The cultural changes in society to adapt to tech has accelerated and to say things like “ fictional virtual realities seem great on the page but would be hell to actually live in 12 hours a day” you’d have to forget how quickly we went from playing games in person to online, to shopping in person to online - hell even communicating in person to communicating so much online! The “metaverse” (as the name we call this upcoming second reality) will happen whether we like it or not! And for some marginalised or persecuted or impoverished groups that reality might even be a lot better than what they have in the real world today (and that’s what scares the hell out of me)
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