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Re: Remove the Notch

#11

Post by chadlavi » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 8:56 PM UTC

There's just no pleasing people.

"Here's more screen real estate, but it's not contiguous."

"No! I hate you! This is an abomination! I will black it out and make it useless."

If they hadn't made any camera updates people would also be ticked about that.

Edit: I thought people were using this to push their menubar down below the level of the notch and creating black dead zones on the left and right of the notch. But I still think it's silly and picayune for people to quibble about the color of the menu bar.

Re: Remove the Notch

#12

Post by smoldesu » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 8:56 PM UTC

wlesieutre wrote: post #6

qntty wrote: post #5

Does anybody know if the notch is an obstacle for the cursor? Does the mouse pass through the notch or does it need to go around?

Passes through

Unless you have a menubar that spans across the notch, in which case the behavior changes for some reason to teleport your cursor across the notch. Mind you that this is not the same behavior for statusbar icons for whatever reason, they will reside underneath the notch (yet still accessible for) unless the aforementioned global menu expands beyond the notch, in which case it just starts hiding random statusbar icons until it fits.

Re: Remove the Notch

#13

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 8:56 PM UTC

tatorzot wrote: post #3

But does it exclude the bar from being populated _under_ the notch? I feel like that is a greater sin.

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Re: Remove the Notch

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Post by salamandersauce » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 8:56 PM UTC

GreedCtrl wrote: post #4

I thought this feature was built in, but maybe not? All I can find is https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212842 which seems to be on a per-app basis.

Apple's solution is per-app and when you go full screen otherwise you can't avoid it.

Re: Remove the Notch

#15

Post by chungy » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 8:57 PM UTC

I hoped this would be a campaign to stop the notch insanity on phones. Give us the full screen back!

(I have a OnePlus 7 Pro -- I bought it precisely because it doesn't have that nonsense.)

Re: Remove the Notch

#16

Post by david422 » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 8:57 PM UTC

smoldesu wrote: post #12

wlesieutre wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Passes through

Unless you have a menubar that spans across the notch, in which case the behavior changes for some reason to teleport your cursor across the notch. Mind you that this is not the same behavior for statusbar icons for whatever reason, they will reside underneath the notch (yet still accessible for) unless the aforementioned global menu expands beyond the notch, in which case it just starts hiding random statusbar icons…

> behavior changes for some reason to teleport your cursor across the notch

Which was always the cardinal sin in mac os HIG - never move the mouse.

Re: Remove the Notch

#17

Post by smoldesu » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 8:57 PM UTC

jstx1 wrote: post #10

smoldesu wrote: post #7

I thought this was a petition asking Apple to get rid of it, I was almost excited for a moment.

They'll remove it in 3-5 years and congratulate themselves for listening to people.

I wish I had that kind of courage.

Re: Remove the Notch

#18

Post by alexeiz » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 8:58 PM UTC

Free?! You can easily charge $15 for this. The notch is so fugly, people will readily pay to get rid of it.

Re: Remove the Notch

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Post by sp332 » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 8:59 PM UTC

chungy wrote: post #15

I hoped this would be a campaign to stop the notch insanity on phones. Give us the full screen back! (I have a OnePlus 7 Pro -- I bought it precisely because it doesn't have that nonsense.)

If your phone had a front-facing camera, you never had the use of the full front area. (Unless it was one of the weird ones with a pop-up camera!) A notch lets you use those odd-shaped blank spaces at the top of your phone for junk like a clock, and gives you more space for apps.

Re: Remove the Notch

#20

Post by soneil » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 8:59 PM UTC

hah, it works on a regular M1 sans-notch. I used to use obsidianmenubar.com for this many moons ago, glad to see a replacement.