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Turning stem cells into human eggs

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Re: Turning stem cells into human eggs

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Millions of same-sex couples may benefit from this research in the future if it helps make it possible for them to conceive (directly biologically related) children. EDIT: Oh gosh, it's right there in TFA, that's what I get for skimming instead of reading deeply. All I saw were comments on the ethical implications of the biology work when I commented.

It's in the mission statement at the top of the link:

> and potentially allow male-male couples to have biological children.

Re: Turning stem cells into human eggs

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> Our Mission > We want to help parents have kids when it otherwise wouldn’t be possible. What is so unethical about that?

Because the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I can see many ways this spirals into something different.

Having Ethicists making these decisions is paving another road with good intentions.

Re: Turning stem cells into human eggs

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post #31

Millions of same-sex couples may benefit from this research in the future if it helps make it possible for them to conceive (directly biologically related) children. EDIT: Oh gosh, it's right there in TFA, that's what I get for skimming instead of reading deeply. All I saw were comments on the ethical implications of the biology work when I commented.

It's in the mission statement at the top of the link: > and potentially allow male-male couples to have biological children.

Of course they'd still need a surrogate to gestate the baby. Which ain't cheap.

Re: Turning stem cells into human eggs

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I don’t understand. Are you saying there’s some negative impact to allowing people to have children who otherwise couldn’t? What problems do you foresee?

I commented above a few of the issues I see. For example, would Lebron James (or any celebrity or person that has genetics that are profitable) be afraid of giving blood for fear of someone making Lebron 2.0 without his permission?

That's not a new problem, in the USA even a man who is raped can be forced to pay child support to his rapist.

Obviously these child support laws are in need of reform.

Re: Turning stem cells into human eggs

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Sure, that end is noble, but the ends don't always justify the means.

I don’t understand. Are you saying there’s some negative impact to allowing people to have children who otherwise couldn’t? What problems do you foresee?

> Are you saying there’s some negative impact to allowing people to have children who otherwise couldn’t?

In and of itself, no. I'm saying there's issues with some particular ways of doing so.

Re: Turning stem cells into human eggs

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Oh goody. Now we don't need females /s

Why does anybody think this is a good idea? The 'right' of same-sex couples to have children via gametes their own bodies cannot produce is not at all obvious. For centuries, the interdependence of the sexes for reproduction has formed the basis for human society. We should not be so willing to give this up because a small minority of people find the other sex distasteful for their sexual preferences.

Re: Turning stem cells into human eggs

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Sure, that end is noble, but the ends don't always justify the means.

I don’t understand. Are you saying there’s some negative impact to allowing people to have children who otherwise couldn’t? What problems do you foresee?

Personally, I foresee breeding programs for armies to create perfect soldiers. I foresee breeding programs for a permanent slave underclass. How can you not see the problems?

Re: Turning stem cells into human eggs

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post #36

Oh goody. Now we don't need females /s Why does anybody think this is a good idea? The 'right' of same-sex couples to have children via gametes their own bodies cannot produce is not at all obvious. For centuries, the interdependence of the sexes for reproduction has formed the basis for human society. We should not be so willing to give this up because a small minority of people find the other sex distasteful for th…

It's not "giving up" heterosexual relationships / children. It is really, really odd that heterosexual people immediately think that their way of life will be eradicated because LGBT folk are getting more options to have happy lives. Do you think that, given the option to have a relationship with an individual of the same gender, that all heterosexual people will suddenly be unwillingly seduced into homosexuality? If so, might want to examine those feelings with a qualified professional.

Re: Turning stem cells into human eggs

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post #36

Oh goody. Now we don't need females /s Why does anybody think this is a good idea? The 'right' of same-sex couples to have children via gametes their own bodies cannot produce is not at all obvious. For centuries, the interdependence of the sexes for reproduction has formed the basis for human society. We should not be so willing to give this up because a small minority of people find the other sex distasteful for th…

The 'right' of same-sex couples to have children via gametes their own bodies cannot produce is not at all obvious

And the 'right' of you or me to stop them is?

Re: Turning stem cells into human eggs

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post #36

Oh goody. Now we don't need females /s Why does anybody think this is a good idea? The 'right' of same-sex couples to have children via gametes their own bodies cannot produce is not at all obvious. For centuries, the interdependence of the sexes for reproduction has formed the basis for human society. We should not be so willing to give this up because a small minority of people find the other sex distasteful for th…

I can think of other reasons like a couple struggling with female infertility. Those who have had kids can tell you that having children is the opposite of a selfish act.
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