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I’m putting a WiFi router into a wall charger

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Re: I’m putting a WiFi router into a wall charger

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Why as a wall wart? Odds of discovery and removal are high. Instead fit it into a lightbulb form factor, and replace a lightblub in the restroom. Or you can be SUPER brave and fit it into a wall outlet form factor and replace the whole outlet / receptacle.

Make it look like a hubble-twist-lock that a 120VAC standard 15A recepticle accepts. No one would suspect. Scuff it up and make it dirty. Bingo.

Re: I’m putting a WiFi router into a wall charger

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post #58

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I've heard of electricians who will change a live receptical. I even found this video exhibition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WERqtFfgcyo

Many electricians will do this if needed. My brother-in-law gets shocked with 110v on a regular basis, and doesn't really mind anymore. I don't think many would work on a hot 240v circuit, though.

UK (230V) here, I've observed electricians working on live circuits frequently. That's why tools like this exist, 'safe' for working up to 1000V:

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/c/vde--insulated-tools/

Despite being warned not to over and over again, I have replaced multiple electrical outlets and light switches in my home without flipping the breakers

Re: I’m putting a WiFi router into a wall charger

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> Drop one of these in a Mcdonald's, and nobody’s going to expect a thing. You can leave it for days, while it collects data and marshals it back to your home network. brave assumptions. it's will be gone in 30 minutes.

Are you saying that you need to hide a USB thumb-drive in a wall charger instead?

Re: I’m putting a WiFi router into a wall charger

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> Drop one of these in a Mcdonald's, and nobody’s going to expect a thing. You can leave it for days, while it collects data and marshals it back to your home network. brave assumptions. it's will be gone in 30 minutes.

Was thinking the same thing. Leaving stuff in public that resemble known consumer electronics will guarantee they perform disappearing acts ASAP. Ideally, you'd want something firmly attached to a wall, something that looks industrial/enterprisey, like it's an important part of the building alarm, water, power, HVAC or network system. Then people won't fuck with it. And when you're installing it, wear a brightly colo…

:( it's the second time today I've read the 'F' word on HN. I usually don't encounter it here which makes me like this community more.

I'm not a leader of this community so my opinion doesn't matter but as a fellow human I'd like to request that you use another word to express yourself. I know this is subjective but I wanted to share this with you. In any case, I hope you have a good day :)

Re: I’m putting a WiFi router into a wall charger

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard of electricians who will change a live receptical. I even found this video exhibition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WERqtFfgcyo

Many electricians will do this if needed. My brother-in-law gets shocked with 110v on a regular basis, and doesn't really mind anymore. I don't think many would work on a hot 240v circuit, though.

confirm from experience: 240V is no joking matter, but it's not _that_ dangerous either (otherwise it would be higher)

Re: I’m putting a WiFi router into a wall charger

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was thinking the same thing. Leaving stuff in public that resemble known consumer electronics will guarantee they perform disappearing acts ASAP. Ideally, you'd want something firmly attached to a wall, something that looks industrial/enterprisey, like it's an important part of the building alarm, water, power, HVAC or network system. Then people won't fuck with it. And when you're installing it, wear a brightly colo…

:( it's the second time today I've read the 'F' word on HN. I usually don't encounter it here which makes me like this community more. I'm not a leader of this community so my opinion doesn't matter but as a fellow human I'd like to request that you use another word to express yourself. I know this is subjective but I wanted to share this with you. In any case, I hope you have a good day :)

Cursing is pretty common on here. Just re-read the guidelines and there's no rules against inappropriate language like the "f-word"... Especially when considering such a benign usage as the parent comment, ie: just replacing the verb in "mess with" which is not targeting the language at anyone/anything.

It may not be as common as other platforms, but casual conversation does happen here which includes the occasional curse word.

Just trying to inform - I'm sorry you're sensitive to it.

Re: I’m putting a WiFi router into a wall charger

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many electricians will do this if needed. My brother-in-law gets shocked with 110v on a regular basis, and doesn't really mind anymore. I don't think many would work on a hot 240v circuit, though.

UK (230V) here, I've observed electricians working on live circuits frequently. That's why tools like this exist, 'safe' for working up to 1000V: https://www.machinemart.co.uk/c/vde--insulated-tools/ Despite being warned not to over and over again, I have replaced multiple electrical outlets and light switches in my home without flipping the breakers

At least please don’t be seen by kids. They might believe it’s nothing.

Re: I’m putting a WiFi router into a wall charger

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post #47

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That’s going to be way more suspicious that plugging in a phone charger, given the history of bombs being left in trash cans.

The reason why there's a history of bombs being left in trash cans is because it's easy and discrete.

Which is also why it’s suspicious if someone sees you do it. Someone seeing you plug in a phone charger is much less suspicious.

Obviously it’s not suspicious if no one sees you do it.

Re: I’m putting a WiFi router into a wall charger

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many electricians will do this if needed. My brother-in-law gets shocked with 110v on a regular basis, and doesn't really mind anymore. I don't think many would work on a hot 240v circuit, though.

UK (230V) here, I've observed electricians working on live circuits frequently. That's why tools like this exist, 'safe' for working up to 1000V: https://www.machinemart.co.uk/c/vde--insulated-tools/ Despite being warned not to over and over again, I have replaced multiple electrical outlets and light switches in my home without flipping the breakers

I did commercial lighting for a few years. Relamp/reballast or LED retrofits are almost always done during business hours, with the lights on. Big lighting systems usually run at 277V. (Phase-to-neural voltage of 480V three-phase)

I would much rather work on a hot 277V lighting fixture than a 120V wall socket. Much more room to work, wire gauge is way thinner. The downside is that you're always on a ladder, so a big shock is comes with a ten foot fall as a free bonus. If I'm touching anything inside a wall, the breaker is getting flipped.

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