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Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by hacksnewer »

BbzzbB wrote: post #27
phone8675309 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a feature, not a bug. The monied classes/aristocracy use the good times to pad their coffers and make the plebs feel like they can succeed and then they hunker down and wait out the bad times in their castles and mansions while the plebs fight for king and country because the aristocrats/monarchs got bored and kicked off a war, the plebs get sick and die while the rulers/owners stay safe by sending their servant…

That put way too much intent over people's actions IMO. Who the hell are these aristocrats orchestrating multi-generational psy-ops? Do they meet over brunch to plan it? Not every theory has to be explained by conspiracies. I don't know if Strauss-Howe's theory is accurate, but it seems to me (a layman) completely defensible thru plain psychology, sociology and observation, a defensible "natural evolution/patterns of…

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Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

jayd16 wrote: post #31
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's literally the exact opposite of what that quote implies: 1. Hard times (e.g. the Depression and WWII) bred the strong people of the Greatest Generation. 2. These strong people brought the prosperity that let to the good times of the Baby Boomer generation. Leave it up to you to determine what kind of times Baby Boomers have brought.

The context is Gen X is weak. So Gen X is good too? I understand the context of the quote and I'm pointing out it immediately breaks down.

> The context is Gen X is weak. So Gen X is good too?

I don't think you understand the context of the quote at all, this is also the exact opposite of what the quote implies.

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by handrous »

taneq wrote: post #26
mmstgshj wrote: post #7

I'm Gen X and I'm sick of this bullshit. Generations aren't a monolith and this schmuck doesn't speak for me.

I don't even know what the fuck generation I am, when I was a kid they called me Gen X but then I got retconned to Gen Y and now who knows. When I started highschool mobile phones and the internet weren't a thing and when I started university they were ubiquitous, that should date me closely enough.

X/Y "Cusper" (I think most cut that off at '82?), or just an early or "elder" Millennial if you're slightly past that. Some like to add an "Oregon Trail generation" that covers the tail end of X and the beginning of Y, basically for the kids whose first computers (their own, a relative's, at school, whatever) were not connected to the Internet. I think that cut-off's around '85 or '86, usually.

[EDIT] I think there's a tendency to have a bunch of names for that set specifically because the latter ~half of Millennials had a very different experience than the early ~half—the early half did have a childhood more similar to Gen X, and they grew up immersed in Gen X media on top of it—so lumping them together doesn't seem right to a lot of people.

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by nineplay »

evv wrote: post #40
nineplay wrote: post #15

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Millennials have the voting majority though. How long before they start to get the blame for the election results?

My friend, a plurality is not a majority. And in a two party system, even a majority won't help. Biden got elected thanks to young voters, but look how little climate action the new administration has taken. Sad that you're looking to assign blame rather than problem-solve for future generations.

I'm not assigning blame though I can see how it would look that way.

Seeing how these discussions go today, however, and looking forward - I fully expect the millennials to be an easy target before long. Gen X isn't big enough to shoulder the blame after boomers die out.

You're right of course, I should have said plurality. I'm currently reading a biography of Hitler so you'd think I'd be particularly sensitive to the difference.

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by apocalypstyx »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #29
jayd16 wrote: post #25

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So are the greatest generation bad and the boomers good? This is a silly way to look at things I think. Without a solid definition of time, its just the tautology of the good times and bad times being the only states and then blaming the people of those times.

That's literally the exact opposite of what that quote implies: 1. Hard times (e.g. the Depression and WWII) bred the strong people of the Greatest Generation. 2. These strong people brought the prosperity that let to the good times of the Baby Boomer generation. Leave it up to you to determine what kind of times Baby Boomers have brought.

Hard times also bred the Nazis.

And to say those were the hard times conversely states that prior to that were the so-called 'good times.' This might be generalized as the roaring 20s in the US (and similarly for Weimar Germany.) However, this generalization fails in two regards: 1) contrary to popular belief, the roaring 20s weren't roaring for most people in the US (or Germany). 2nd) the members of both eras were primarily composed of the same individuals; there is no distinct line of generations divided by 'good times/bad times.'

Lastly it implies that by definition all 'good times' are predicated upon holocaust.

EDIT: And that strength can only be continually cultivated through perpetual war.

Re: Generation X Is Sick of Your Bullshit (2011)

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Post by jayd16 »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #45
jayd16 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The context is Gen X is weak. So Gen X is good too? I understand the context of the quote and I'm pointing out it immediately breaks down.

> The context is Gen X is weak. So Gen X is good too? I don't think you understand the context of the quote at all, this is also the exact opposite of what the quote implies.

Context of this thread/conversation vs original context of the quote.
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