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Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm

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Re: Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm

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It is scary how far this made it. All because of money, and the thought of losing it.

Indeed, those greedy administrators that accepted money from Munger should be let go.

Let go? Sued.

Re: Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm

#122

From my point-of-view as a former firefighter, I would say this: A building meant to house 4500 students, with only two entrances? There's a word for that: deathtrap. Building this is setting UCSB up to be the site of the next Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire[1], Station Nightclub fire[2], or Hamlet Chicken Processing Plant fire[3]. At a first glance, based only on the information provided in the article, I'd say tha…

As point out elsewhere, 2 entrances doesn't mean 2 egress points. There are likely lots of one way doors out of the building.

Re: Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm

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> an 11-story, 1.68-million-square-foot structure that would house up to 4,500 students, 94 percent of whom would not have windows in their small, single-occupancy bedrooms. > Munger maintains the small living quarters would coax residents out of their rooms and into larger common areas, where they could interact and collaborate. That seems unlikely.

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Re: Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm

#124
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Entrances != Egresses. Do you ever notice those doors that say emergency exit only?

They clearly forgot to count the windows..

A lot of deadly fires happen at night when people are in bed sleeping. And most of the "bedrooms" in this building would not have windows, per the article.

an 11-story, 1.68-million-square-foot structure that would house up to 4,500 students, 94 percent of whom would not have windows in their small, single-occupancy bedrooms.

"Ah", but you might say, "just use someone else's window!"

To which I say "bullshit." If it's 3:00 in the morning, and you have a bunch of sleepy, probably hung-over (or still buzzing) college kids, and a building full of smoke and superheated toxic gases, the odds that these kids will successfully locate and utilize another window strike me as so low as to not even be worth considering. Drunk college kids don't do well with dormitory fires, or at least that's what a lot of historical evidence suggests.

Re: Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm

#125

From my point-of-view as a former firefighter, I would say this: A building meant to house 4500 students, with only two entrances? There's a word for that: deathtrap. Building this is setting UCSB up to be the site of the next Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire[1], Station Nightclub fire[2], or Hamlet Chicken Processing Plant fire[3]. At a first glance, based only on the information provided in the article, I'd say tha…

Its exceedingly likely that that number does not include fire escapes and emergency exits.

Re: Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm

#126

From my point-of-view as a former firefighter, I would say this: A building meant to house 4500 students, with only two entrances? There's a word for that: deathtrap. Building this is setting UCSB up to be the site of the next Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire[1], Station Nightclub fire[2], or Hamlet Chicken Processing Plant fire[3]. At a first glance, based only on the information provided in the article, I'd say tha…

Would it even pass fire regs? Surely that makes it a non-starter?

Re: Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm

#127
post #28

Glad he had the balls to step down and call them out. The other committee members and people in charge of the project should be embarrassed as they failed to represent the best needs of the university and its students. Windowless dorms, crazy 97 year old billionaire amateur architect and a bunch of corrupt university staff and committee members who would do anything to save a few bucks. What could go wrong? Humanity…

What I don't understand is how this shithole costs so much? 1.5 billion for 4,500 residents comes out to 333,333 per resident. It feels like they could probably build normal dorms for that price.

Re: Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm

#128
I see other concerns being voiced which I agree with, like the lack of windows and having only two entrances.

Other than these valid safety concerns, and in an ideal world, I find myself in support of the project.

I absolutely abhor sharing a bedroom with total strangers. To me, it is totally unacceptable.

I would rather live in a physically constrained space rather than share it with a stranger, or even a friend.

But I would like a window that I can open.

And I mentioned ideal world because this should drive down cost of college for students.

As they are all stacked up in a smaller place eating up less space horizontally, their accommodation cost should be down.

But I don't think that this would realistically happen.

Re: Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm

#130
Hm. I'm thinking of it as training for long range spaceflight or tight LEO or other type of space station---crowded, microscopic personal space, no view or just darkness of space, light engineered to support circadian cycles.

Will this be good for students in SB? Based on psychological research in last few decades, nope.

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