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Interesting, but what are long tail domain?
Domains that have less frequent lookups so the chance of getting a cached response is lower.
Why aren't they just called infrequently used domains then?
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#42I did test 1.1.1.1 and found it to be pretty slow on long tail domains (obviously everyone is caching popular ones). I bascially ran a 'dig' with multiple DNS providers and CloudFlare was slowest among the bunch for long-tail domains. Here are the details: https://twitter.com/vladquant/status/1428761979808669704 CloudFlare never responded to this tweet.
Interesting, but what are long tail domain?
I think the idea is that you take a list of all domains and then count the number of DNS lookups that are done for each over the course of some time period (e.g. 1 year). Then sort them from high to low number of lookups. At the start of the list you'll probably find only a few domains with many billions of lookups. As you go down the list you'll find many domains with very few lookups, the "long tail".
It's a bit confusing because normally "long tail" refers to a histogram or probability distribution where a large portion of the population is far from the central part. I don't think that works in this case, unless I'm confused about what to put on the x-axis. (Because if the x-axis is lookup frequency, the domains being referred to here would be in a peak close to 0, not in the tail.)
edit: maybe the x-axis of a histogram could be "mean time between lookups" instead of frequency? That would put the popular domains in the peak near 0, and the unpopular ones farther out in the "tail".
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#43Why do parents feel the need to control what their children do online? I had unrestricted internet access as a child and turned out fine. Although I must say, a DNS based approach is more benign than some of the horrendously invasive alternatives.
In recent news, that mindset leads to elementary school students watching stuff like Squid Game which I find really inappropriate at that young age:
https://www-bz--berlin-de.translate.goog/berlin/berliner-sch...
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#44Yes, send more data to big companies like cloud front and google. They need it.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Domains that have less frequent lookups so the chance of getting a cached response is lower.
Why aren't they just called infrequently used domains then?
>Why aren't they just called infrequently used domains then?
You could call them "infrequent" but "long-tail" is also a common description to convey a Power Law distribution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_tail
I think in this case about DNS caching, "long tail" is better than "infrequent". In the wikipedia graph, some of the domain lookups in yellow may be "frequent" (absolute sense) but simultaneously but much less popular (long tail) such that they don't stay in DNS lookup caches.
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My high school friend group lived on 4chan, and this was in the era of shock sites and the like. You grow out of it pretty quickly. Zero parenting experience here, but making something the "forbidden fruit" is probably how kids learn to change the DNS on their device. As far as I can remember, the only real-world consequence was someone applying Bengay where it should not be applied.
Point of clarification, was this before or after stormfront explicitly started using the site as a recruitment and training ground for neo-nazis? Because I also spent a fair bit of my middle and high-school time on 4chan, and can attest to the fact that the 4chan of 2007-2012 and the chansites of the present day are very different beasts.
Where are you getting this from? Of course discussion on 4chan wasn't as politicized back then because politics was a much smaller part of the internet a decade ago in general, but people back then are still what you'd call "nazis" or whatever even today. If anything the /n/ (the first iteration of /pol/) board had existed since close to the start of the site and only in 2008 was it removed and replaced with the Transportation board.
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#47I’d urge everyone to run a dns bench tool at home. Cloudflare isn’t always the right choice and for some ISPs with routing issues it can sometimes be a bad choice.
Also note that DNS queries might be overridden by your ISP. I've seen a few ISPs override DNS queries to 8.8.8.8 and respond with their own stuff. It might not be the case for 1.1.1.1 since it's not that popular.
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#48The one thing Cloudflare DNS is missing is providing something like NextDNS. Choose your own filter lists (that are constantly updated), create multiple profiles to use according to the target device/location and enjoy as blocking at the DNS level. It’s not a complete match for something like uBlock Origin, but a lot of stuff still gets blocked with DNS filters.
Have you checked out Cloudflare Gateway? We used that to do DNS filtering on some iPads we deployed
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Parents have a responsibility to teach, guide, and educate their children to prepare them for adulthood. Today a vast amount of your "life" is online (much more than a decade ago). It only makes sense for parents to "parent" their children online. > "Horrendously invasive" Children do not have a right to privacy from their parents. Privacy (from parents) is a privileged that is earned and can be taken away. If you fo…
> Children do not have a right to privacy from their parents. They do everywhere outside the US, under article 16 of Unicef's convention on rights of the child. Of course this right is not absolute and many will say that the right to a child's safety comes before the right of a child's privacy, but children do inherently have a right to privacy. The convention does not exclude parents from this right for good reason.…
I don't believe article 16 gives a child right to privacy in all places and at all times. I believe a loving parent should be able to rightfully demand that online privacy be limited for the child in some ways with respect to the parent. I failed to point this out, but I was generally referring to online privacy with my comments. Thanks to your comment I've thought this through a bit more and did a little digging/research.
> There are parents who will demand their 17 year old child to hand over their private conversations, search history, you name it
Under certain circumstance this is justified, even according to unisef and the resources they link to.
"Governments, companies and others should support parents with appropriate guidance and tools, including how to respond to and, if needed, report harmful contacts, conduct and content." [1] -> "guidance and tools" links to [2], which explicitly states parents can "Monitor a teen’s social media sites, apps, and browsing history, if you have concerns that cyberbullying may be occurring" as well as "Know your child’s user names and passwords for email and social media" and "Establish rules about appropriate digital behavior, content, and apps".
I'd also add that unicef has called out pornography as potentially harmful for children [3], as that's likely a topic many children may debate. And that parents may use parental controls [1] (point #4) to help them make online platforms safe for children.
[1] https://www.unicef.org/media/67396/file/COVID-19%20and%20Its...
[2] https://www.stopbullying.gov/cyberbullying/digital-awareness...
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