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Zappos CEO’s final months describe drug-addicted psychosis in court documents

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Post by gojomo »

jacquesm wrote: post #81
gojomo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if Europe will ever lift its Iron GDPR Curtain to allow its residents to access free-world websites!

Note that this curtain isn't put in place by the EU, nor that compliance with the GDPR is hard.

It is an extra compliance cost & financial risk imposed by the EU, with essentially no benefit for the website.

It also provides negligible benefit for any EU subject, compared to what the privacy-conscious users could achieve via self-help for themselves – by not registering, or clearing cookies, or using other tech measures.

Have trillions (or quadrillions?) of EU cookie popups actually preserved any privacy at all? Or just wasted staff time, reader time, & trained a 'consent dialog blindness' into users worldwide?

Re: Zappos CEO’s final months describe drug-addicted psychosis in court documents

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Post by robbedpeter »

teakettle42 wrote: post #91
twiddling wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"No-fault divorce is a broken system." Or was it a community property state?

It’s an “equitable distribution” state; property is divided without regard to marital misconduct or fault.

For whatever it's worth, those laws were built around an idea of marriage that's very different than the institution as it exists today.

Maybe it'd help if states were required to provide marriage applicants with property allocation statistics from the last year of divorces, and list every penalty and rule that would execute upon divorcing their spouse. Oh, showing how much money people pay in alimony, and how much divorce lawyers rake in would be good, too.

Maybe fewer people would get married. Maybe it'd prompt some changes.

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Post by gojomo »

short12 wrote: post #93
gojomo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if Europe will ever lift its Iron GDPR Curtain to allow its residents to access free-world websites!

You can just ignore it if you are not in the EU

These websites, based on their own internal analyses, have concluded ignoring it completely is not safe for them.

But also, they know that implementing (& maintaining!) compliance, moreso than a simple block, has nonzero cost, while EU readers provide them negligible benefit. So they take the easy way out, given the incentives created by the EU.

And what had been a free bonanza for EU readers – a peek into info sources from elsewhere, easier for the sites to provide than to limit in any way – has had extra friction added by the EU, to the detriment of EU subjects.

Re: Zappos CEO’s final months describe drug-addicted psychosis in court documents

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Post by crate_barre »

FormerBandmate wrote: post #100
crate_barre wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol, do you how many homeless drug addicts there are? It doesn’t take that much money to go off the rails and sustain a habit. Even if you’re going broke and can’t get the expensive stuff, there’s always alcohol which can be had for as little as $1.50 for a 24oz.

Homeless junkies and criminal junkies don’t act like Zappos guy did

Woah, quite a sheltered life you live. I’ve seen people spazz out ion all kinds of drugs and alcohol just on the subway.

Re: Zappos CEO’s final months describe drug-addicted psychosis in court documents

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Post by jacquesm »

gojomo wrote: post #111
jacquesm wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that this curtain isn't put in place by the EU, nor that compliance with the GDPR is hard.

It is an extra compliance cost & financial risk imposed by the EU, with essentially no benefit for the website. It also provides negligible benefit for any EU subject, compared to what the privacy-conscious users could achieve via self-help for themselves – by not registering, or clearing cookies, or using other tech measures. Have trillions (or quadrillions?) of EU cookie popups actually preserved any privacy at all…

It's a benefit to the public, the fact that companies go so far as to refuse to be compliant tells you how addicted to all this data they really are.

The cookie popups were the wrong response to well intentioned legislation, the proper response would have been to stop using cookies, not to use these stupid banners.

Functional cookies were never a problem, but tracking people indiscriminately is a problem.

Consent dialog blindness is a good term, but it is caused by the makers of the consent dialogs not by the legislators. Not tracking is a viable alternative and does not require any dialogs.

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Post by malcolmgreaves »

robbedpeter wrote: post #112
teakettle42 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s an “equitable distribution” state; property is divided without regard to marital misconduct or fault.

For whatever it's worth, those laws were built around an idea of marriage that's very different than the institution as it exists today. Maybe it'd help if states were required to provide marriage applicants with property allocation statistics from the last year of divorces, and list every penalty and rule that would execute upon divorcing their spouse. Oh, showing how much money people pay in alimony, and how much d…

That's a pre-nup

Re: Zappos CEO’s final months describe drug-addicted psychosis in court documents

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Post by gojomo »

jacquesm wrote: post #115
gojomo wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is an extra compliance cost & financial risk imposed by the EU, with essentially no benefit for the website. It also provides negligible benefit for any EU subject, compared to what the privacy-conscious users could achieve via self-help for themselves – by not registering, or clearing cookies, or using other tech measures. Have trillions (or quadrillions?) of EU cookie popups actually preserved any privacy at all…

It's a benefit to the public, the fact that companies go so far as to refuse to be compliant tells you how addicted to all this data they really are. The cookie popups were the wrong response to well intentioned legislation, the proper response would have been to stop using cookies, not to use these stupid banners. Functional cookies were never a problem, but tracking people indiscriminately is a problem. Consent dia…

That US news sites find their EU visitors of such low value that they'd rather block them than spend to be compliant (& thus still get some aggregate or opt-in data) is a pretty strong refutation of the idea they're "addicted to all this data".

What's the tangible harm of this supposed "indiscriminate tracking" - especially as compared to other burgeoning EU initiatives like demanding law-enforcement backdoors into e2e chat sessions?

The consent-dialog-blindness is created by the regulatory demands for their constant re-display, for negligible benefit. If not even asking for cookies was 'viable', major sites – who have far better understanding of the relative tradeoffs than the regulators – would've gone that way. Can you name any that chose that 'viable' path? Are they winning their categories with that 'viability'?

You know what else is 'viable'? User self help. Clearing/disabling cookies. Running a privacy-protecting browser, like say Brave.

The EU could've protected a lot more privacy, without wasting the world's time & burning-out people's attention, if it had coached people into self-protection, rather than threatening businesses worldwide with fines. But hey, haughty mega-super-state's gotta do mega-super-stating.

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Post by robbedpeter »

malcolmgreaves wrote: post #116
robbedpeter wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For whatever it's worth, those laws were built around an idea of marriage that's very different than the institution as it exists today. Maybe it'd help if states were required to provide marriage applicants with property allocation statistics from the last year of divorces, and list every penalty and rule that would execute upon divorcing their spouse. Oh, showing how much money people pay in alimony, and how much d…

That's a pre-nup

More like a codified collection of what the default pre-nup is if you don't have one customized. Probably more than 80% of the married people I know fell into it without a whole lot of intention and planning, and it shows. "Marriage, because baby" is like compound interest, except it's compound stupid.

Re: Zappos CEO’s final months describe drug-addicted psychosis in court documents

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Post by [deleted] »

hacksnewer wrote: post #18
pinewurst wrote: post #15

I'm strongly reminded of Howard Hughes, as mentally ill, drug-addicted prisoner of his "staff".

You're not far off but the sad thing is that Hughes died 30 years later. He died due to malnutrition and for years his various control centers had run operations separate enough from him that he had no clue what was going on sometimes, but he still was running much of his empire in that penthouse up to the early 70s. Hughes was a direct part of Watergate.

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Re: Zappos CEO’s final months describe drug-addicted psychosis in court documents

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Post by tata71 »

selimthegrim wrote: post #99
Waterluvian wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"5 years spent as a rich junkie must be worth a lifetime as a 9-5 cubicle worker." This claim demands great evidence.

John McAfee is not here to testify but I think the last few years of his life are certainly evidence - whether for or against that proposition I’m not sure

Toward end, he apparently said he regretted nothing.

That's different from not being sad etc. He can still be satisfied that his decisions were best they could be within his parameters.

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