If I were close to him, I would have had him kidnapped and put on a remote island, far away from all these leeches.
Zappos CEO’s final months describe drug-addicted psychosis in court documents
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#62This Zappos article is like the whole catalog of rich people problems in a nutshell: drugs, parasitic relationships, arrests, and dumb accidents. I know some people who know people who made a lot of money in the 2000s dot com boom. One of them got a "guru" who he paid several thousands of dollars a day to. The "guru" fed him Ayahuasca and people who visited the rich guy at his house said he had removed all furniture…
> They often say that there's no one more hopeless than a rich junky. If they have a very large amount of money, they never hit rock bottom until they're dead. Why doesn't anyone make the argument of quality vs. quantity when discussing such examplers 5 years spent as a rich junkie must be worth a lifetime as a 9-5 cubicle worker
Of course, you're assuming that a quality life is measured by the amount of worldly pleasures experienced.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They often say that there's no one more hopeless than a rich junky. If they have a very large amount of money, they never hit rock bottom until they're dead. Why doesn't anyone make the argument of quality vs. quantity when discussing such examplers 5 years spent as a rich junkie must be worth a lifetime as a 9-5 cubicle worker
"5 years spent as a rich junkie must be worth a lifetime as a 9-5 cubicle worker." This claim demands great evidence.
In theory if you value variety of experiences than 5 years as junkie may be better outcome than the a desk job.
Most people don't value variety all that much which is why 9-5 workers are lot more common than perpetual travellers etc.
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#64Nitrous oxide abuse is really dangerous
> Hi Everyone,
> I have quite probably taken more Nitrous (at least in Whippit form) than anyone else alive. So I feel compelled to share with all of you - my experience.
Read more: https://www.bluelight.org/xf/threads/nitrous-oxide-experienc...
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point being made is that it’s hard to get by and be deep in more one of those situations if you’re poor.
Poor people don't get deep into drugs, aren't involved in numerous parasitic relationships, don't get arrested or do dumb things? That's only something rich people get deeply involved in? Of course not, it's just no one cares when a poor person does it. The reason we care about when rich people do it is precisely because we don't expect someone who is rich and seems to have it all to get into these situations, and th…
It can get a lot worse when you have the money to enable drug use, have money to be parasitized, have lawyers for any arrest to pay a meaningless fine, or house-arrest on your compound(s) instead of jail time, pay for any accidents and pay to do dumb(er) things.
So yeah, rich people can get wayyyyy deeper in any and all of those than poor people.
A rich person is just a better resourced poor person. I’d argue their quality of life isn’t much different except one can buy their way out of any problem while the other has to suffer it directly.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bill Murray said try being rich before being rich and famous. I'm rethinking the rich part.
Rich is better than famous. Plenty of people are quietly rich and basically just go about their business and live their lives, secure in the knowledge that there's money in the bank if they need it. There's no such thing as quietly famous. Many of pitfalls of being rich & famous, like greedy enablers and a larger-than-life lifestyle, stem from the "famous" part.
The key is to slowly become rich. Tony Hsieh died at 46, around the time most pre-rich people haven't even made it out of upper middle class. Amass wealth slowly and your poor grifting friends will slowly be replaced with rich friends whose grifts will at least have a chance of return.
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#67This Zappos article is like the whole catalog of rich people problems in a nutshell: drugs, parasitic relationships, arrests, and dumb accidents. I know some people who know people who made a lot of money in the 2000s dot com boom. One of them got a "guru" who he paid several thousands of dollars a day to. The "guru" fed him Ayahuasca and people who visited the rich guy at his house said he had removed all furniture…
> They often say that there's no one more hopeless than a rich junky. If they have a very large amount of money, they never hit rock bottom until they're dead. She’s fortunately still alive, but when I divorced my ex-wife over her substance abuse, she walked away with ~$1M in cash. It took three years of partying, but she finally ran out of money, hit rock bottom, went to AA, and is actually looking for a job. It was…
> No-fault means what?
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#68This Zappos article is like the whole catalog of rich people problems in a nutshell: drugs, parasitic relationships, arrests, and dumb accidents. I know some people who know people who made a lot of money in the 2000s dot com boom. One of them got a "guru" who he paid several thousands of dollars a day to. The "guru" fed him Ayahuasca and people who visited the rich guy at his house said he had removed all furniture…
> One of them got a "guru" who he paid several thousands of dollars a day to. The "guru" fed him Ayahuasca and people who visited the rich guy at his house said he had removed all furniture from his house, was wearing robes and said he could control the winds with his thoughts.
I think we have this acquaintance in common.
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#69very sad though not new story about addiction and depression.
Here is my comment 10 month ago after reading his book "Delivering Happiness": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25326510#25326860 . Worth checking out the book in this context - a shadow-story about depression.
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#70This Zappos article is like the whole catalog of rich people problems in a nutshell: drugs, parasitic relationships, arrests, and dumb accidents. I know some people who know people who made a lot of money in the 2000s dot com boom. One of them got a "guru" who he paid several thousands of dollars a day to. The "guru" fed him Ayahuasca and people who visited the rich guy at his house said he had removed all furniture…
I have never tried any drugs/alcohol, but I'm curious about Ayahuasca. Don't know anyone personally who has been through the ceremony, but I've listened to a bunch of interviews, read a bunch of articles about it. It mostly seems legit, but I have no clue. Anyone here tried it? What was the experience like?
I've seen enough intelligent and otherwise reasonable people go down that road and not come back that I would caution you to be very, very wary and to suspect that anybody that invites you to join them in their trips is a lobster looking to pull you down into the pot, not to lift you out of it.