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Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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Post by bumby » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

QuarterReptile wrote: post #437

bumby wrote: post #430

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> women outnumbering men in ever-more prestigious fields is going to leave some very successful women without good matches. I agree with your post but the quote above speaks to my original point further up the thread. The fact that this assumes that the only suitable mate is one of the same career status is part of what drivers income inequality. Other than that, the only other proxy for attainment is income but it’s…

>The fact that this assumes that the only suitable mate is one of the same career status is part of what drivers income inequality. Absolutely. The proliferation of two-income families is a huge and well-documented driver of inequality. But the fact is that human woman tend not to marry below themselves in terms of some combination of status markers that they judge as important. And human men who don't feel like thei…

>the fact is that human woman tend not to marry below themselves in terms of some combination of status markers

I think this point to what people have an issue with. In many western cultures people are told marriage/mating is based on love, yet more than a trivial amount of what people see is largely based on status. They may not be mutually exclusive, but not weighted in the proportion that is commonly spoken about

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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Post by pjmlp » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 8:24 AM UTC

spurgu wrote: post #434

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Plenty of female devs on most places I have worked since the .COM wave. If I am not mistaken, as per last results, most Informatics/Software Engineering degrees in Portugal have about 50% distribution between genders.

50% sounds crazy (and unsustainable). The women I've met in tech tend to, on average, have the same ambitions as their male counterparts - they chose this as a job/career, as opposed to having an actual passion for IT. A far cry from "my group of people" who grew up with BBS's, modems, demoscene, internet in the 90's. And I still try to hire only people who have a generic interest in computing and throw graduate resu…

The best coders I had the pleasure to work with, were all females, so there is that.

A mixed coding environment is always one of the points I assess when I get job offers.

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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Post by spurgu » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 12:07 PM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #442

spurgu wrote: post #434

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50% sounds crazy (and unsustainable). The women I've met in tech tend to, on average, have the same ambitions as their male counterparts - they chose this as a job/career, as opposed to having an actual passion for IT. A far cry from "my group of people" who grew up with BBS's, modems, demoscene, internet in the 90's. And I still try to hire only people who have a generic interest in computing and throw graduate resu…

The best coders I had the pleasure to work with, were all females, so there is that. A mixed coding environment is always one of the points I assess when I get job offers.

Sure, I appreciate a healthy mix as well. Just saying it's unrealistic to expect a 50/50 distribution of anything, in any field, expecially so in software development.

Curious as you mentioned degrees, do you know if the same ratio transfers over to actual work life?

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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Post by QuarterReptile » Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 3:07 PM UTC

bumby wrote: post #441

QuarterReptile wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The fact that this assumes that the only suitable mate is one of the same career status is part of what drivers income inequality. Absolutely. The proliferation of two-income families is a huge and well-documented driver of inequality. But the fact is that human woman tend not to marry below themselves in terms of some combination of status markers that they judge as important. And human men who don't feel like thei…

> the fact is that human woman tend not to marry below themselves in terms of some combination of status markers I think this point to what people have an issue with. In many western cultures people are told marriage/mating is based on love, yet more than a trivial amount of what people see is largely based on status. They may not be mutually exclusive, but not weighted in the proportion that is commonly spoken about

Once again, I am in almost complete agreement; I am the last person to defend popular US American messaging about love and match-making. It is mostly fanciful lies, and telling young people how you wish things were does not prepare them for life.

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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Post by selimthegrim » Sat, Oct 30, 2021, 1:06 AM UTC

mensetmanusman wrote: post #357

postsantum wrote: post #336

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Why? Marriage has always been a financial/political thing. Love marriage is a recent invention

Depends on the culture. For example, Rome was converted (>50%) to Christianity in about two centuries due to the impact of opening Jewish family customs to the Gentiles (read: everyone not a Jew by blood) and a reformulation of what it means to love.

Which customs?