Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
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Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
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Wait what? I mean, seriously either 1) you believe the vaccine works: in that case YOU are safe if you're vaccinated, regardless of others. 2) you believe the vaccine doesn't work: it doesn't matter. So ... what? You don't believe either of those?
The reality is neither of those. The vaccine works, but not perfectly. As such, the protection is the product of the protections of everyone you come in contact with.
Lots of people die effectively from pneumonia ("natural causes", but pneumonia is the drop that overflows the bucket). And if you turn out to be one of them, you know where the bacteria that's going to kill you currently is? It's on your skin. Right now. Best to take no chances and burn your skin off, because you're sure as hell not going to get it off with any less serious measures.
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
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Great news, just further demonstrates that these systems should never have been built.
What's the alternative? Every winter months of lockdowns, economic disruption, overflowing hospitals and hundreds of thousands of needless deaths? Just get your shots. Stop being pricks about it, it's not a big deal.
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#204Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reality is neither of those. The vaccine works, but not perfectly. As such, the protection is the product of the protections of everyone you come in contact with.
Yes there can be a short-lived infection with covid even when you're vaccinated. It's going to be very short lived and not dangerous, and I believe I once read a study that claims humans face some 50 short-lived infections daily . Mostly not covid, not even a virus at all: mostly bacterial ones. Lots of people die effectively from pneumonia ("natural causes", but pneumonia is the drop that overflows the bucket). And…
It's also not as much about my risk if I were to get infected, but me transmitting it to somebody else.
Like say my grandma. She's vaccinated, but she's also 80. In that age group, vaccines might not be enough. Look at Colin Powell. Vaccinated twice, still dead from Covid.
I'm tired of inconsiderate assholes making up elaborate excuses to continue being a risk to everyone cause they don't want the inconvenience of a needle
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
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That's a fine argument, but I've never seen a proper quantitative assessement of the risk of hospital over-run with respect to vaccination rates (or in general, frankly). The vast majority of COVID infections are mild or completely asymptomatic, so something like 90% of the hospitalization burden is being caused by 10% of infections. Mandating that some random 20-something year old get vaccinated does not move the ne…
Parent was not so much asking about mortality as about health care management. Do you imply all the data that shows unvaccinated are much more likely to require hospitalization, is flawed or fake?
But some of it is certainly true. Vaccination makes a very significant difference in hospitalization among the very at-risk subset of the population. But in the healthier demographics, vaccination status is irrelevant to "net hospitalization" because in those demographics COVID itself is irrelevant to hospitalization when compared to other causes of hospitalization.
Since I didn't mention it explicitly, I mentioned all-cause mortality because that's going to be very correlated to all-cause hospitalization as well (and the fact that mortality itself is something we should care about).
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great news, just further demonstrates that these systems should never have been built.
What's the alternative? Every winter months of lockdowns, economic disruption, overflowing hospitals and hundreds of thousands of needless deaths? Just get your shots. Stop being pricks about it, it's not a big deal.
You said it yourself:
>Just get your shots. Stop being pricks about it, it's not a big deal.
Since fucking when do we need to build mass surveillance systems to encourage people to vaccinate?
Why does it need to be a big deal? I don’t give a shit about vaccines (had my 2 shots as soon as they were available), but I genuinely believe that people pushing for pervasive vaccine passes do not deserve to live. Fucking develop technology to test if I actually had the vaccine, don’t try to use this as an excuse to check my documents.
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
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So you are saying we shouldn’t trust whether others have been vaccinated or not? Or should we fallback to paper cert?
We shouldn’t ask others about their private medical information.
Your medical record is private, but if a job has a requirement they can ask for proof of vaccine. It is up to you to provide it, and it is up to them to how to interpret it if you don't provide and how to handle it.
For example even before the pandemic it was a job requirement of you were in a medical field.
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#209Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes there can be a short-lived infection with covid even when you're vaccinated. It's going to be very short lived and not dangerous, and I believe I once read a study that claims humans face some 50 short-lived infections daily . Mostly not covid, not even a virus at all: mostly bacterial ones. Lots of people die effectively from pneumonia ("natural causes", but pneumonia is the drop that overflows the bucket). And…
If you think a simple shot that in the worst case has you feeling kind of off for a few days is comparable to ... taking off your skin, then frankly you are a lunatic. It's also not as much about my risk if I were to get infected, but me transmitting it to somebody else. Like say my grandma. She's vaccinated, but she's also 80. In that age group, vaccines might not be enough. Look at Colin Powell. Vaccinated twice, s…