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Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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NAC is amazing! We have it available here OTC. I wanted to get in higher quantities from the US but I might not be able to do that, then. Check this random factoid out: "After about two weeks of 2,400mg NAC supplementation, cigarette usage appears to be reduced voluntarily by around 25%." I personally take it for my liver. It does wonders to it, similarly to silybilin.

How are you measuring the “wonders” that it does to your liver?

Primarily liver function tests.

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> The results, published Wednesday in the journal Lancet Global Health, were so strong that independent experts monitoring the study recommended stopping it early because the results were clear.

I'd like some info about those "independent experts".

Yeah, I only trust experts employed by the manufacturers of new, expensive, patented medication with severely limited availability!

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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If you continue having issues, consider taking NAC. It's very commonly used to treat bronchitis and my asthmatic mother has had tremendous success with it.

NAC has many other health benefits. It helps your liver, for example. It is given for acetaminophen overdose, FWIW.

I would caution against anyone supplementing with NAC for general health reasons (e.g. other than a specific condition like bronchitis).

In mice, very high doses of NAC causes tumors to form. https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/n-acetyl-cysteine-...

More broadly, there is a lot of emerging evidence against directly taking antioxidant supplements. For example, it is well established that antioxidant supplementation counteracts the benefits of exercise in humans (free radicals are a cue the body uses to initiate recovery). https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/NFS-03-2.... You can find similar articles/studies for other antioxidants.

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I wonder what rate of adverse effects will be considered acceptable for a drug administered to people known to have the virus? For vaccines, our tolerance seems very low. I suspect we don’t actually think prevention is better than a cure.

It would depend greatly on their age, I would posit for that those over 65, any drug that killed less than 10% of the people who took it would be acceptable. Vaccines are part of a broader political debate, the problem in politics is people are picking sides. It's very rare to run into a person who doesn't support the vaccine mandates but did get vaccinated. People are generally either anti-vax & anti-mandate, or vac…

> It's very rare to run into a person who doesn't support the vaccine mandates but did get vaccinated.

How do you tell?

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

#156

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SSRIs are pretty serious, which is why you should probably just get vaccinated instead.

It's so strange how people are looking to truly foreign substances / drugs (from ivermectin to bleach to SSRIs now) compared to a vaccine, which is basically just a bunch of mRNA and a few preservatives. That is, a bunch of stuff that is basically already floating around in our bodies / cells.

One difference is that ivermectin has been safely used for many years while mRNA vaccines are rather new.

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No. Ivermectin is not officially approved in the UK for the treatment of COVID-19. Source from the government : https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/freedom-of-inform...

I was under the impression that it was approved in July and your source predates this but I could be wrong What do you say to the multitude of positive studies though? https://c19ivermectin.com/ Are all of them wrong?

This epidemiologist points out several major flaws with that website. For one, the website selectively picks the best result from each paper, which results in the website aggregating a bunch of unrelated measurements, including measurements that were not even each paper's main outcome/measurement. https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1422044335076306947

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I'd like some info about those "independent experts".

Yeah, I only trust experts employed by the manufacturers of new, expensive, patented medication with severely limited availability!

I only trust experts that are specified, not nebulous "independent experts" :)

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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Be aware that the said antidepressant is an SSRI, which has the potential to cause permanent sexual dysfunction (PSSD) [1]. It seems that we don’t quite understand how the drug works. Most doctors threw this condition out of the window by claiming SD is caused by depression. There have been some recent studies showing possible mechanisms behind it. Some manufacturers and healthcare organisations (NHS) are beginning to label this as a potential side effect. But in general it’s not well known.

[1] https://rxisk.org/post-ssri-sexual-dysfunction-pssd/

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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Glad to see this being spoken about! I’ve been assisting with data analysis for an eclectic group of people (who funded this study). Been really disheartening to watch the politics around alternative treatments. Personally, I expect this to be attacked as well, but am hopeful! The stuff really does seem effective, particularly when combined with other drugs...

> Personally, I expect this to be attacked as well, but am hopeful! At least it can't be called a "horse dewormer".

> At least it can't be called a "horse dewormer".

The reference to "horse dewormer" is the fact that a substantial volume of people started actually ingesting horse dewormer bought straight from farm supply stores because ivermectin was listed as a component.

Demand for horse dewormer intended for this ad-hoc use grew so much that its availability was jeopardized, and in some cases ceased to be available to farmers who needed it to treat their cattle.

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