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Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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Post by rscho »

deepnotderp wrote: post #99
rscho wrote: post #64

This thread has the strongest 'pseudoexpert-statistical-bro' vibe I ever experienced. It's amazing! You can have your own beliefs regarding COVID, but it surely revealed a lot about the social perception of statistics... #-/

As opposed to "experts" who always have rock solid statistical knowledge (/s): https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/38403/what-causes-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_p-values I wish that people would stop disparaging attempts to contribute from people outside the specialized ingroup. This stuff is hard, what counts as a hypothesis test for instance? Should datasets be locked and each view counted as…

Contribute what? Mathematically incorrect statements don't seem very useful to me...

After cursory examination, I don't understand your point regarding the stackexchange link. As for hypothesis testing, I also fail to see how that is supposedly poorly defined.

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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Post by blitzar »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #2

Sarcasm and hyperbole incoming but… Surely there could be no side effects of putting even more people on SSRIs! well how many more people you thinking? Covid-many .

Sarcasm and hyperbole incoming but… IF, big if, you are of the persuasion that the vaccine is a dna altering, 5g brain chip, population steralisation project; why would you want to see even more people being given SSRIs?

SSRIs are incredible, opiates are also incredible, both true wonders of modern medcine, especially for those that need them and truly wonderful tools for doing what they do. But they can also be terrible, really terrible, particularly when handed out in pez dispensers.

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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Post by eru »

jb1991 wrote: post #103
_ywdj wrote: post #44

From my own experience I can very much believe an SSRI could have an effect on the immune system and/or the respiratory system. I was a heavy cigarette smoker in my 20s, and over those years, I experienced worsening asthma and also worsening anxiety and depression. Eventually I was prescribed an SSRI (Zoloft), and found that not only did my mood change, my asthma completely abated, even though I was still smoking jus…

There are other known links between emotion and asthma. For example, children are more likely to develop asthma if they grow up with a parent who is depressed or high-stress.

Though just keep in mind that all kinds of health problems are comorbid.

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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Post by m0zg »

johnisgood wrote: post #107
m0zg wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FDA banned OTC NAC sales after it found out it might help with COVID [1]. Can't have that. And yeah, I know you're suggesting it for something else, but it's hard to get now. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7649937/

Are you serious? The FDA banned NAC? This is absurd.

I think they re-classified it and it's no longer available over the counter. As far as I'm aware it was not banned entirely. I wouldn't know, I stocked up considerably right after the ban, before it disappeared from online stores (but after it already disappeared from Amazon). I figure they wouldn't ban it if it didn't work, like most supplements.

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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Post by freitasm »

Meanwhile https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/imm...

"Further studies are needed to establish whether the anti-inflammatory effects of fluvoxamine observed in nonclinical studies also occur in humans beings and are clinically relevant in the setting of COVID-19."

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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Post by johnisgood »

m0zg wrote: post #114
johnisgood wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you serious? The FDA banned NAC? This is absurd.

I think they re-classified it and it's no longer available over the counter. As far as I'm aware it was not banned entirely. I wouldn't know, I stocked up considerably right after the ban, before it disappeared from online stores (but after it already disappeared from Amazon). I figure they wouldn't ban it if it didn't work, like most supplements.

NAC is amazing! We have it available here OTC. I wanted to get in higher quantities from the US but I might not be able to do that, then.

Check this random factoid out: "After about two weeks of 2,400mg NAC supplementation, cigarette usage appears to be reduced voluntarily by around 25%."

I personally take it for my liver. It does wonders to it, similarly to silybilin.

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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Post by nottorp »

pertymcpert wrote: post #9
blinkingled wrote: post #5

> In the group that took the drug, 11% needed hospitalization or an extended ER stay, compared to 16% of those on dummy pills. Is that really promising? Very close to margin of error if not within.

> The results, published Wednesday in the journal Lancet Global Health, were so strong that independent experts monitoring the study recommended stopping it early because the results were clear.

I'd like some info about those "independent experts".

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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Post by im3w1l »

rscho wrote: post #64

This thread has the strongest 'pseudoexpert-statistical-bro' vibe I ever experienced. It's amazing! You can have your own beliefs regarding COVID, but it surely revealed a lot about the social perception of statistics... #-/

I see a lot of misconceptions every time statistics are discussed here actually. Like really basic stuff. To me it kind of signals the need for education reform, because in our increasingly sophisticated and data-driven world, everyone needs to know the basics of statistics.

Re: Cheap antidepressant shows promise treating early Covid-19

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Post by nottorp »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #96
m0zg wrote: post #15

I bet with crystal meth you won't even notice your COVID if you take enough of it. Not sure it's a worthwhile tradeoff though, though I'm sure "legalize everything" crowd would disagree. Taking SSRIs to very marginally reduce severity seems like an extremely dumb idea.

Did you just compare crystal meth with SSRIs?

That's what my first thought was. Treating a viral infection with an anti depressant means to me that you just won't notice how sick you are.
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