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Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked

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Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked

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post #117

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Personally I think it is unethical not to leak it. Technology is the best way to fight surveillance-oppression.

Are you against speed limit enforcement too? Or is this a matter of degree and not pure principle?

The two are not comparable. You don't need a car to live. But in some countries you're cut off from essential services in the name of politicized science.

Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked

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No, very good. There are European countries that have went full stasi with "papers, please". Leaked private keys are liberation.

Imagine comparing a simple health measure to the Stasi. Some folks on here take individualism to pathological levels.

Starting with November 15, it will be illegal to employ unvaccinated people.

They already can't enter supermarkets or access any "non-essential" services.

"simple health measure", you literally need that + a form of ID to leave the home. And I cannot support that.

Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked

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post #117

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Personally I think it is unethical not to leak it. Technology is the best way to fight surveillance-oppression.

So you are saying we shouldn’t trust whether others have been vaccinated or not? Or should we fallback to paper cert?

You should not trust even paper certs. At least in Russia, too many of them are bought by anti-vaxxers. I.e., some doctors responsible for vaccination, given some extra money, do everything they need to do, except the actual injection.

P.S. My re-vaccination attempt failed on October 22nd. 270 people in the queue before me, some are sneezing, no social distancing at all, so I decided not to risk. I still have a valid certificate from March 18th.

Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine comparing a simple health measure to the Stasi. Some folks on here take individualism to pathological levels.

Starting with November 15, it will be illegal to employ unvaccinated people. They already can't enter supermarkets or access any "non-essential" services. "simple health measure", you literally need that + a form of ID to leave the home. And I cannot support that.

You need a passport to leave your country. You need a drivers license to drive a car. It's illegal to employ people without a work visa.

Relax. Don't pretend this is something new or the end of the world. This is how civilization works, through society making decisions on whats acceptable and what isn't. There's all sorts of sensible restrictions already and this is another one that makes sense.

Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked

#165

Just wonder, how any of you vaccine masterminds would explain how vax scanners for PEOPLE are comming and how will they detect if you really had the shot? How would that be possible without some magnetic stuff in you blood? Now you know why is so "important" to let go on the green pass, cause you ganna be a walking magnet for simple metal detectors, presented as state of the art new science.

Not sure why downvoted. This is a legitimate point. In Romania it's possible to get "sink vaccinated". That is, the doctor squirts the syringe into a sink instead of in you, and you get 100 % valid papers to show your local wannabe Arstotzka agent.

Having a covid passport proves nothing. They'll have to scan your blood like in Gattaca.

Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked

#166

Nobody verified my code so far, they just eyeball the app. So the practical impact of such a leak is probably small, since people will fall for dumb forgeries already.

The only place that really checks with the app in my world is a sweaty dance club in Prague. This is actually very appropriate. They even match with my ID.

Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked

#167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starting with November 15, it will be illegal to employ unvaccinated people. They already can't enter supermarkets or access any "non-essential" services. "simple health measure", you literally need that + a form of ID to leave the home. And I cannot support that.

You need a passport to leave your country. You need a drivers license to drive a car. It's illegal to employ people without a work visa. Relax. Don't pretend this is something new or the end of the world. This is how civilization works, through society making decisions on whats acceptable and what isn't. There's all sorts of sensible restrictions already and this is another one that makes sense.

There's no point in reasoning with you, if you believe that someone's private health information is a blanket reason to completely ruin their livelihood.

Would be lovely if you were put in a position where it's something you don't want to (or can't) do, or your own government takes away your entire livelihood. But it would be fine, because that's how civilisation works, through society making decisions on whats acceptable and what isn't. There's all sorts of sensible.

I would have a sweet, sweet "I told you so" moment, but I would still stand up for your rights.

Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked

#168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starting with November 15, it will be illegal to employ unvaccinated people. They already can't enter supermarkets or access any "non-essential" services. "simple health measure", you literally need that + a form of ID to leave the home. And I cannot support that.

You need a passport to leave your country. You need a drivers license to drive a car. It's illegal to employ people without a work visa. Relax. Don't pretend this is something new or the end of the world. This is how civilization works, through society making decisions on whats acceptable and what isn't. There's all sorts of sensible restrictions already and this is another one that makes sense.

What is this "society" you speak of and when/where does it make these decisions?

Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked

#169
post #50

Nobody verified my code so far, they just eyeball the app. So the practical impact of such a leak is probably small, since people will fall for dumb forgeries already.

In Greece, the vast majority verifies certificates, with high-density venues like clubs asking for ID as well.

I was in Greece (Santorini) for the past 5 days and nobody asked about COVID certificate and hardly anyone wore a mask.

Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked

#170
post #136

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I think you should get vaccinated and then trust that vaccine works (if you’re worried about the virus).

That talking point completely ignores the dynamics of infectious disease.

Wait what? I mean, seriously either 1) you believe the vaccine works: in that case YOU are safe if you're vaccinated, regardless of others. 2) you believe the vaccine doesn't work: it doesn't matter.

So ... what? You don't believe either of those?

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