Finnish app[1] verifies as valid as of now.
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Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
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Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe there's a real person named Adolf Hitler? Not from Germany for sure.
A family in New Jersey USA had their children taken away from them after naming one of their kids that. They attracted attention by ordering a birthday cake with the then 3yo’s name on it. I have a friend whose older brother is named Adolf, born in Berlin in the early 1940s and still lives there. I’ve always wanted to ask why he didn’t change his name but what an awkward question. I am surprised Dolf Lundgren didn’t…
>I am surprised Dolf Lundgren didn’t choose a completely different stage name (though he’s Swedish).
Isn't his name Dolph? And I would've never actually thought about "Adolf" when seeing his name, so I don't really see that he would've needed to do that.
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mostly yes. E.g. in Germany there’s often no speed limits. I also support laws like “you’re responsible for not speeding” so if you crash and hurt someone, you could be guilty, but not if you’re speeding on a completely straight & empty motorway.
I'm not sure I would say often. The no speed limit stretches are much more limited than people outside of the country seem to think, and often are temporarily limited when needed, times of higher traffic, road work, near cities or on/off ramps, weather conditions, etc. It is not as much of a free for all as you make it out to be. We already have laws that make people responsible if they are speeding and crash and hur…
We disagree, and that’s fine. Maybe I also have higher risk tolerance than most other people.
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Personally I think it is unethical not to leak it. Technology is the best way to fight surveillance-oppression.
Are you against speed limit enforcement too? Or is this a matter of degree and not pure principle?
Comparing speed limit to health status is misleading to say the least.
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe there's a real person named Adolf Hitler? Not from Germany for sure.
> Not from Germany for sure. Is it illegal to name a child Adolf Hitler in Germany? Serious question, not sarcasm.
> Is it illegal to name a child Adolf Hitler in Germany?
Not necessarily (from https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorname_(Deutschland)#Rechtlic... , roughly translated into English):
The law on giving names in Germany is not passed through legislation but is instead the result of customary law and legal precedent/judgements. Exceptions are for example in changing of the given name(s) involving adoption or in the application of §1 TSG ("transsexual law").
After the birth of a child its first name is decided by their parents (or the singular legal guardian) although there are certain guidelines for the naming.
The first name...
- ... has to be recognizable as a first name
- ... can be of neutral gender (had to be obviously male or female until 2008)
- ... must not be damaging to the child, for example inviting ridicule or making a connection to "Evil", e.g. "Judas" or "Kain" ("Cain" in English). The first name Adolf despite its tainting through the dictator could potentially be legal depending on the parents' motives
- ... must not be damaging to the religious feelings of other people in society, for example "Christus", in the past also "Jesus" which has since been declared legal by a court
- ... must not be a well known name for a place/town/city or a trademark
- ... must not be a family name, with some exceptions
- ... must not contain a title like "Lord" or "Princess"
- ... must be given within a month of the birth.
A person can have multiple, but has to have at least one first name. The local can also intervene in the giving of too many first names if that would otherwise come to harm the child (one ruling made it so a mother could not give her child twelve but only a maximum of five first names). When given multiple first names the one most often used to address the person is called the "Rufname" (approximate English equivalent "nickname"). The arrangement of the first names is not a ranking. Following a German supreme court decision (1959) a person is free to choose from their official first names by which they'd like to be addressed, the "nickname" is thus not set permanently.
A child's first names have to differ from their siblings', if there are multiple first names, one can be the same as a sibling's. Three first names must not be connected by dashes (e.g. "Jan-Marius-Severin").
- snip, long paragraph on the history of the requirement for an obvious gender of the first name(s), important part to follow - Following a supreme court decision in 2008, there is no such requirement in the law, the earlier "requirement" came from an official directive given to the registrar's offices ("Standesämter"). Thus the name-giving by the parents continues to only be restricted by the "no harm to the child" or if "there is no possible way for the child to identify their sex/gender [1] from the name".
In Germany, exceptions allow for the later change of one's own first name(s). For example immigrants have the option to "Germanize" their names or, if that's impossible, choose new first names. Furthermore there's the option to change one's first name(s) if the person has always been called by a different name or if they can't deal with their "exotic" first name.
In addition trans people have the option to change their first name to fall in line with their gender identity (for which on German identity documents the options are "male", "female" or "diverse").
[1]: don't know which is meant here, "Geschlecht" is (colloquially) used for both words in German
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#146https://g.nh.ee/images/pix/1200x0/lYFSVUXJ5XY/1d2e261794d4d3... This QR code proves Adolf Hitler has received 2 doses of Pfizer vaccine. At the moment you can still use the Estonian app to verify this ( https://kontroll.digilugu.ee ). Probably this specific cert will be revoked soon in all the apps. But the cat is out of the bag. Everyone's grandparents will need to do the certificate retrieval dance again, which is…
Personally I think it is unethical not to leak it. Technology is the best way to fight surveillance-oppression.
Completely agree with you but that opinion is based on understanding that covid was created in a lab, and the vaccines are a power and money grab or worse.
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Germany I've had some people scroll/interact with the app to make sure it's not just a screenshot, but so far nobody ever scanned my QR code.
And what if it was a screenshot? What's wrong with a screenshot? I'm alway taking screenshot of my qr code for boarding pass and things like that so I don't have to keep the airline app open and it works without network.
The easiest way to pretend you are vaccinated is to take a screenshot from somebody with the certificate and photoshop the name.
Of course that's trivial to detect by interacting with it or scanning the QR code (which won't match the photoshopped name).
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
* England: what is even covid
Honestly feels completely back to normal here, streets and bars are full of people again, definitely only about 30% still wearing masks. Not endorsing it either way, just surprised how quickly everyone gave up on it here when places in Europe are still implementing passports and requiring scans to enter stores/restaurants.
There continues to be a dominant mainstream view that whatever Europe does, "we" have to do the opposite because "we" know better. The results are very clear in the infection numbers, with transmission ratio back to 1 and above.
It will be a long winter.
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
78 governments have ICAO private keys, and most have done so for >10 years now. If what "we all know" is true, then you should be able to find a leaked key easily. Try googling. Or you might fall back to claiming that while governments evidently can hold on to ICAO private keys, they can't hold on to this other kind of private key, because...
Might be a matter of issuing bodies per country. Most countries have 1 passport issuing authority that’s used to thinking about security 1st, while they can have many covid certificate issuers. And many clinical authorities are not security 1st.
That's one option. The other is to regard the initial statement (that "We all know the government can’t hold on to keys") is false. Pick a test you believe to distinguish between the two. Say, whether the access keys for at least one database in a country that has >100 has leaked. Then google to see whether you can find such a leak.
Re: Private keys used to sign EU Digital Covid Certificate might have been leaked
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
These tyrants would love to hold on to these these digital “covid passports” because it gives them complete control over who can participate in society. They’d be able to exclude people who don’t comply with increasingly invasive protocols. It’s about power. The pandemic technically should already be considered endemic. For example in the USA the vast majority of the population has antibodies, in a significantly high…
> 60 to 70 percent threshold that Fauci and other public servants claimed as the target over the last year. That number changed because the delta variant is far more infectious now. It's closer to 90 %. But you already knew that, which is why you mentioned the time frame of those statements. If I know that you're making disingenuous arguments, and you know that you're making disingenuous arguments, the healthy reacti…
Your response is very emotional. I didn't think that the facts in the arguments you replied to were disingenuous or schizophrenic.
Headlines often are fear-mongering. Politicians are not always following the science. There's a lot of research and data to look at, and not all pointing consistently in the same direction as some might believe. Things like mask effectiveness compared to ventilation and isolation, the fatalities concentrated in obese and aged populations, breakthrough infections, and even the danger that the vaccines are exerting evolutionary pressure towards changes outside the targeted spike portion of the virus, which worst case would mean we get to do this again.
Even the 90% number you mentioned involves quite a bit of uncertainty, given that we are probably already there (based on the study showing 83% in May, before additional vaccinations and all the people exposed during the entire delta wave).
The idea that populations can mask and vaccinate to stop this does not appear to be working out (breakthrough infections). It appears this will end up like the other existing common cold coronaviruses, where children of the future catch it and shake it off no big deal then have antibodies, annoying many and killing a few. The experts predicted just that as a likely outcome at the beginning of the pandemic.
The current U.S. death toll from covid amounts to 1 out of every 492 people, overwhelmingly the old and unhealthy. That doesn't strike me as a lot, certainly not worth the significant and still ongoing disruptions to economies and peoples lives. Worldwide this is comparable to the per-capita 1968 Hong Kong flu death toll. These things happen. We are better than ever at keeping unhealthy and old people alive, until something unusual comes along.
In fact our whole complex modern world - hospitals, factories, shipping, mass media, bureaucracy, many individuals, etc - doesn't seem to cope well with the out of the ordinary. In many ways we have grown complacent. Nature reminds us that she's in charge.
I know that some people feel different about that 1 in 492 number. I understand that opinions vary. In a democracy we should respect each other and work it out, not shout others down as some kind of heretics.